But two years (or even one year) at a community college getting basic requirements out of the way, then transferring to a four year school to finish an engineering degree is wayyy cheaper than doing the four year school straight through. Now, you’d want to be savvy about it, making sure your intended final school will accept credits from the CC, and making sure you’re taking classes that would count towards the final degree, and of course making sure there’s a good chance the intended final school would accept you at all, etc. But it is a great way to get a four year degree for less money.
Join the Army. Guaranteed job for 4 years, and they’ll pay you while they train you. I suggest a medical technician job, like x-ray tech. Then when you get out they’ll pay for you to go to school. Although they pay twice as much if you get the degree first and make the Army pay off your loans instead.
Twenty years of professional and technical experience is what they have. Also working knowledge of health care privacy law, decades of experience acquiring and maintaining office-management skills, already-existing knowledge of how to file documents, code documents, manage and maintain insurance claims, probably some accounting, definitely how to use the office equipment (and before your stupid, entitled ass starts whining about how easy it is to do that, have you ever used a modern office copier? They’re often larger than small cars and have impressive computing power and advanced capability.)
Can you define HIPAA without recourse to Google? Do you know what documents must be shredded (as opposed to just recycled, as opposed to just tossed)? Do you have working knowledge of technical medical terminology? Can you use a multi-line phone system? Define “coding” in a medical/dental setting (hint: there’s more than one meaning that might fit). If a patient’s spouse calls, what if any questions are you allowed to answer? What would you require to be able to answer the questions you are currently not allowed to answer? Have you ever done professional scheduling? Do you know the difference between professional scheduling and Google calendars?
I know this is not actually a very friendly response, but the actual answer here has already been given and I will sum it up for you as follows:
“Suck it up, Buttercup. Either obtain a degree or certification in a skilled trade, which will require you to obtain training in advance of being paid or you can start working for somewhere in the general vicinity of minimum wage and seek training to advance from that point. There generally aren’t easy paths to success.”
Furthermore, I’m going to guess that you are less successful at concealing your disdain for administrative professionals than you think you are, which probably explains why your interviewing thus far has been unproductive. Might want to work on that attitude some.
Corporations hire part time workers for many reasons - they’re generally younger, cheaper, more flexible, and easier to replace. That said, part time work is a good way to start. Not enough money? I’m pretty sure it pays more than unemployment.
Here are the ABC’s of employment - A) training, B) experience and C) renumeration. With more of A and or B you can get more of C, and vice versa. Obtaining A and C take time. There are no viable shortcuts.
You’d go to school to draw blood, but not to change oil or learn a trade? Hmmm.
No, the part time work while in training is paid. When the training is completed, the salary goes way up. See "ABC’s " of employment above.
Your suggestion - go to school for 6 motnths and make $11-12/hour. Our suggestions “Go to an internship/apprenticeship/trade school for 2 years while working part time and, once you’re trained, make $25+/hour”. Yep, I can see how you’d shrug those suggestions off.
From your perspective you should have a well paying job doing something easy, yet you don’t. Might be time to check your perspective.
That’s a question for your mom and dad 
Okay, you’re young, you have no experience, no training and no degree, but you want to mnake money fast. Here’s my advice.
Go into sales. To be exact, get a job that pays commission. Something like real estate, financial services, or auto sales.
Some of those jobs will require some type of license or training, but it’s a lot cheaper and faster than college.
Of course, there are some downsides. As a newcomer, you’ll get the worst assignments and the poorest client lists. You’ll work really long hours. You won’t have a guaranteed income, and if you work for a “draw,” you’ll be fired the first time you miss your target. You’ll have to manage your money carefully, because one month you can be paid really well and the next month literally make nothing.
It’s not a career for anyone who’s timid, or for people who can’t stand being told “no.” But, if you have a thick skin, work hard and manage to be not obnoxious, you can actually make money.
I agree with you but I have no idea how it relates to the particular situation I was commenting on.
That would be an obvious yes, there’s a great deal of difference. The OP was not at interested in engineering and has no interest in a four year degree.
Also, while there may be engineering tech or CAD certificates, there are also auto mechanic, electron microscopy, landscape management, machinist, and other certificates available, none of which are interchangable with a bachelor’s in engineering. The point of recommending certificate programs to the OP is that he might find something he wouldn’t mind learning to do if he looked through all the certificate courses available.
Quercus, is right about it being cheaper to go to community college for the first two years of an engineering degree, and about checking with the four year college beforehand. I actually did that. UC Davis verified that they’d take graduates from the engineering programs at both Solano College and Napa College (now Napa Valley College), back in the mid 1980s.
I also couldn’t stand the thought of going into debt for more than a few thousand dollars, so I got a student job, scaled back to part time, and resigned myself to the extra time it took to graduate. Learned a lot on the job, too.
Useful information: how’d you do in high school? What have you been doing since?
i got like a 3.0 in highschool. Not high enough to be accepted at a lot of colleges but not bad enough to be considered stupid. I didn’t try that hard.
I’ve been just trying to find jobs and i’ve had a few since highschool.
What were the jobs you had before? How long did you stay at each one?
So people spend their time giving you good advice and you simply blow them off. Then spend the rest of your life being a bum on the street. Why should I care?
‘Literally unable’ does not mean what you think it does.
Employers like:
- qualifications
- experience
- good attitude
Based on this thread, you have none of them.
That’s why you need to study.
There aren’t. But if there were, why would there be any vacancies?
Firstly see the importance of ‘good attitude’ above.
Secondly, consider how you come across to these people. And (as others have said) these ‘dumb’ ladies are your link to potential employers.
And from an employer’s point of view, you’re wrong.
Oh I think your contempt shows through all right.
Perhaps your interviewers can tell that you haven’t tried that hard in the past and that you want an ‘easy’ job for ‘lots’ of money.
Look, we’ve never met. My opinion of you is based solely on your postings in this thread.
And sadly you’ve made a poor impression.
Even your spelling mistakes matter (you may say that this is just the Internet, but shouldn’t you practice proof-reading every chance you get?) A mistake on your application looks terrible.
In case you want to ignore my advice, I’ll state that I have literally been offered a job at every interview I’ve gone to. I retired at 55 having enjoyed my career(s) and owning my house - so I know my advice is good.
There have been many good answers already but it sounds like you want to start at the top. Like previously posted why WOULD your dream job of good pay for minimal work with no training or experience have a vacancy? I’d echo the skilled trade route. Getting paid to go to school and also earn experience at the same time worked for me. After I got finished 25 years ago, I made enough for my wife to be a stay at home mom and do the school / church / civic volunteer thing.
Unsure what part of the world you call home but around here (upper midwest) heavy industry and “dirty” jobs are always on the lookout for help. Last year my employer was begging people for $16/hr+ full benefits jobs. These were entry level and required no training. After 3-5 years you’d be in the low $20s like the dumb farmers kids on the line next to you. Had alot of people like you start because they **weren’t afraid of hard work **and didn’t last the week (or day). I know the meat processors are looking for help and pay in the low teens to start. My eldest son did the temp employment bit last year. Worked 3 months for $10/hr processing cheese. That was his probation period. After that he was hired full time for $16+ with full benefits plus he could buy whatever cheeses they make for $1/lbs. Jobs are there if you truly want one, just not the easy / big money jobs that you want.
I don’t know; everyone seems to be digging the trade route. I have seen many people try their hand at jobs similar to the various manual labor work suggested. There is a reason that they are always looking for employees - it is extremely hard work, often overwhelmingly monotonous, and often given little respect. The reality of it all is that you can spend all day doing back breaking labor and people will just think you are a loser because of what you do for a living. I don’t really think the Op would be suited for it, it is definitely not for everyone. Probably looking into any way to go to college - at least part time - would be better.
That’s not to say that their are not many people who do gravitate towards the trades despite a wealth of other options; it’s a little unusual, but not particularly uncommon, but the OP does not seem anything like that type of person.
I was reading the posts with large quote sections in them and noticed:
Underlining mine.
Does this mean that you haven’t filled out a FAFSA and don’t really know how much financial aid you might get? That might not be what you’re saying, but it sounds like you’ve heard around that you won’t qualify for aid and haven’t bothered to actually check.
No, It means i have filled out the fasfa before and when i put my household income they gave me next to nothing for financial aid.
My stepdad supports me and my mom. He makes like 22$ an hour.
But my parents have enough debt to bring that down to about 15 an hour to support us. Full time.
Not so great.
Fasfa doesn’t care about that.
So i can’t go to college. I can… If i want to literally cash everything out on a student loan… No grants. No scholarships…
I dunno…
How’s your German? Universities there offer free tuition.
Have you researched income based loan repayments yet? I’ll give you a hint-- it will be less than 10% of your income.
Maybe you need to get a haircut.
Everyone is knocking down justjake because he wants to make money with little effort. I do not think his goals are realistic either, but I, for one, strongly support his endeavor.
So lets see what we’re dealing with here. No college degree, no money, and no skills. How can justjake make decent money with his situation? Here are the options I could come up with:
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Work for the government. You can get some city jobs by taking a test. If you do well, you’ll get an entry level job for 25k-30k per year (in NYC. In other cities, YMMV). However, once you get that entry level job, you can qualify for promotions because the government promotes people from within the system. Some people worked their way up to becoming supervisors making 80k per year because they were good at taking city tests. The downside here is that you’ll work for 25k-30k for a few years before you’ll be eligible for a promotion. And the city gives preference to candidates with college degrees.
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Take on a dangerous job. Join the army or maybe the police department?
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Work in sales. There are places that will hire salesmen with no degree/experience. However, you won’t get paid anything unless you make a sale.
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Become a struggling artist, such as a writer, actor or musician. Ok, you might never make money doing this, but it sounds more fun than not making money while doing something else. And who knows, you might write a best seller one day or star in an indie film that goes on to become a surprise hit.
That’s all I got. I just want to add that justjake’s excuse for not going to college is total bullshit. I worked part-time in a liquor store for $8 an hour and made enough money to pay for a city college. My tuition was actually paid by my parents, but the point is that I made enough to pay for it myself. Another colleague of mine (at the liquor store) actually did pay for his associates degree himself, and then got himself accepted to Cooper Union, where the tuition was free.