If you posted “I sure do like ice cream” you would get 8 people agreeing with you, and 2 people that threadshit because that’s what they do.
If you posted “Sarah Palin proven right, cookies suck” you will get a lot of people shitting on you for being an asshole, because that is an asshole thing to do.
See the difference? There is a reasonable way to discuss the merits of icecream vs cookies that don’t involve shitting on the government, pretending the free market cures all, or acting like countries that eat a lot of cookies are some how inferior.
It’s also important to note that both cookies and icecream have a lot of sugar in them. So try to avoid saying stupid shit like, “icecream is better because cookies have sugar.”
What price is this? The many many people from other countries who’ve tried to argue with you certainly don’t think they’re paying any huge price. Would they not know best about their reaction to their own system?
More social programs mean higher taxes, which means higher unemployment, less innovation, brain drain, and slower growth. I’ve provided statistics and cites on each of these points in other threads and was soundly ignored, so I’m not spending the time again. And the point is blindingly obvious anyway.
Huh, Rand Rover is a necrophiliac? That explains a lot. He doesn’t want people to get health care so they’ll die, and he can fuck and get strange diseases from them. Ewww.
No, you were soundly rebutted. You handwaved away the rebuttals though, so here are some of them again:
Canada has a current unemployment rate of 8.2%. The US rate is 10.2%. The last time I pointed this out, you put on your backwards time glasses, and tried to claim that because unemployment in Canada used to be higher, that proved something.
“brain drain”? I provided proof that it has reversed, and was never much of a problem. Canada “gains as much as it drains” according to an actual statistical report
Canada’s currency is now at par, indicating that more investment money is flowing into this country.
The Canadian economy grew at an annualized pace of 5.6% in the last 6 months, “leaving talk of a subdued recovery in the dust.”
As the strong recovery takes hold, the projected deficit is going to be smaller than expected. And even though we’ll be running a deficit for the next few years, our right wing National Post calls the deficit "a model of fiscal probity, compared with Our spendthrift neighbours.
Canada did not suffer the housing bubble and crash that the US did.
And we’ve done all this with our Universal Health Care model, which we’ve had for many, many years. You’d think we’d be certainly going down the economic toilet by now, if your crackpot theory was correct. The FACT that Canada is doing very well indeed economically makes your theory a crock of shit.
ETA: Maybe you can hop in your wayback machine and go to the '70s or '80s and show how Canada’s economy sucks. That should prove that our social programs will be the ruin of us in the future.
Like having a thriving, booming economy and having some neighbours to the south jamming a crowbar in our spokes? Oh, wait, that already happened. What else you got?
But… how can this be possible, when our friend Rand Rover has told us that the terrible cost of our social programs up here will lead to economic problems?
It must be an illusion of some sort. Or it’s an anomoly. Or an exception to the rule. Or those guys at the IMF are a bunch of liberal douches. Ya, that’s it.
Really? You couldn’t prove it by the number of comments on the SDMB picking out the actions of one or a few people at a Tea Party rally and identifying the whole Tea Party from that.
Well, what else do we have? Do they offer an agenda? Specific programs to implement, other than taking back America? Is it our fault they serve as a magnet for every wet-brain nutcase running around out there?
No, because they foster that, its all they got! If they start excluding people on the basis of distance in light-years from the “mainstream”, they will rapidly decline. Only by avoiding any specificity do they maintain any numbers.
Yea! You picked one number and declared victory! Good for your dumb ass!
Now look at historical unemployment rates. It took the largest recession since the Depression for the US’s unemployment rate to match where Canada has been for YEARS.