Hey Stoneburg, you gutless, lying pusbag...

Ha! He doesn’t need to tell us! All we really need to know is that he argued. He must’ve, right? 'Cos he said so. I mean, it’s like, obvious, duh!

And he won that argument, hands down.

Q.E.D.*
[sub] not Q.E.D., the poster, but…oh, fuck it. You know what I mean.[/sub]

They don’t know that, they think that, because their selfish egos incline them to do so.

It would really help if you expressed your reasoning in ways that are backed up with fact, rather than unfounded supposition.

yguy, I’m still waiting to get some non-perverted lunch and watch non-perverted TV.

Please advise.

Yes, but what we’re looking for is evidence that “all this morality stuff”, etc. is the basis for my statements. Kindly provide it.

He’s a liar.

Hey - I haven’t the slightest problem taking criticism or insults. I just don’t like liars.

Too bad you guys aren’t willing to look at your own. You mostly think you know why you believe whatever you believe, and you don’t. Not knowing isn’t so much the problem - thinking you know is.

I believe by now I’ve pretty well covered everything to the extent needed to refute Stoneberg’s claim as to my position, as one poster has already acknowledged, if I’m not mistaken. The “idiocy” of my beliefs is irrelevant to that.

But if I missed anything, let me know.

Don’t see why not, considering they’ve been perfectly willing to make up answers they think I’d give to questions addressed to me. :slight_smile:

Fair enough. :wink:

Then how do we know that their “selfish egos” don’t incline them to think homosexuality is wrong, O Wise One?

Ah, of course! How else would he know so much about what children “really” think?

But come on, I think 13 year olds have enough of a bad reputation already. We don’t need to make it worse by comparing them to folks like yguy.

Please explain how you know the difference between what children “know” and what children “think”. (This ought to be good.)

It seems awfully convenient that the “knowledge” that you claim springs forth from every child’s internal fount of wisdom just happens to agree with your unsubstantiated opinions, while the children’s beliefs you don’t share are mere figments of their selfish egos.

I remember being one. How about you?

I knew when I was being treated unjustly, such as being blamed for something I didn’t do, and I know when I thought I was being treated unjustly, such as when I was told to take out the trash or whatever.

Didn’t you?

The existence of God, the Masturbator-in-Ch… I mean, Clinton…

Probably more. Been awhile. It was a riot. Tables were pounded on, and eardrums were shattered - but we always parted friends. :slight_smile:

I’m still waiting for a single shred of evidence that children do think that homosexuality is wrong.

Christmas vacation, every year, like clockwork…

I certainly didn’t think homosexuality was wrong, as far back as I can remember.

They don’t think it, they know it. Until the question comes before them that knowledge lies dormant.

This is exactly the problem we have with you dickhead. You clearly think you are right even though you aren’t willing to support your reasoning. Just because you remember your childhood doesn’t make you an expert. I remember being a child, and I didn’t have the fucked up worldview you have. Google “childs views on sexuality” if you want to read up on what some people with “PhD” “MD” and other such letters at the end of their names seem to think about the forming of opinions of sexuality.

Maybe if you educate yourself a little bit, you’ll realize that your just another asshole and maybe you’ll find the spine to go punch whatever troglodytes raised you, for it’s clear that they failed in a vital part of their parenting.

Again, I’ll ask for a single shred of evidence to back this up? Any, any at all?

Don’t see why you shouldn’t. Can’t have been that long ago.

You know now, or you knew then? And what does any of this have to do with knowing homosexuality is wrong?

Look, self-serving rationalizations for your beliefs and their consequences do not amount to evidence.

Can there possibly be a clearer case of DNFTT? Let him drop. (My apologies for bumping the thread with this post, but it’s already being bumped once every 3-5 minutes; another bump will hardly pull it to the top of the page). He’s clearly not interested in rational discourse, nor in being charming.

Daniel

Wow. Just… wow.

It’s been quite a long while since we’ve seen an ambushed thread of this speed and magnitude. Who can keep up?

That depends. Is morality relative or absolute?

I sure do. Can’t say I remember “knowing” that homosexuality was wrong, though.

Now, since you didn’t answer my question, here it is again:

Please explain how you know the difference between what children “know” and what children “think”.

Suppose you’re talking to a child, and he tells you something that he believes to be true, but you believe to be false. How would you determine whether it’s knowledge from his internal spring of wisdom, or just a thought from his selfish ego?

At what point did you realize you were wrong? That is, when did you decide that one belief was “knowledge” and the other was just a “thought”?