Gee, remind me Tracy, 'cause I’ve forgotten.
What was it you said less then a week ago? Oh yeah, "It sure feels good to get into the second round of the playoffs."
Too bad you still have no idea what that feels like as you managed to blow both the series lead and then got your ass handed to you by the Pistons today in Game 7.
Have fun watching the second round of the playoffs on Tv.
Shmuck.
Maybe if you’d gone to college you’d have learned some humility, but I doubt it.
Tracy McGrady and his ilk (by which I mean the me-first no-fundamentals show-off thugs that have taken over basketball) are one of the single biggest reasons to hate the NBA. I’m glad that he lost.
Mmmm … pie.
Elwood, I can imagine what a terrible burden this is going to be for you, but if you’d like to actually provide some substance to your remark “me-first no-fundamentals show-off thugs that have taken over basketball”, that’d be marvelous. Does help to show you’ve actually thought a position through rather than being jealous that someone makes piles of money and deciding they don’t actually work to improve their gameplay. Also runs contrary to what most of the NBA color commentators I’ve heard this year say about him, in addition to fellow NBA players. But hey, what do they know? You’re ElwoodCuse. That’s enough for me.
Especially interested in hearing all about how Tracy McGrady is a thug. Complete with cites, documentation, and everything. Unless that, too, is just your way of saying “waaaah! I want money for playing basketball too!”
Pie pie pie pie pie!
And to think if he stayed in Toronto, the Raptors would be that much better. I guess we have to suck it up and hope we win the lottery hehe. Any top 3 pick and look for a stronger, hungrier Raptors team.
I’m also glad that TMac got shown to the rack. I read somewhere that during the end of the fifth game, the fans in Motown were taunting him. He then gestured with 3 fingers then 2 fingers, meaning they were still up 3-2 in the series. Man that must be some delicious pie, cuz TMac loves eating it before round 2 starts.
I don’t know about TMac being a thug but he sure is a pompous jerk. He left Toronto because he wasn’t going to be the main attraction with Vinsanity there. Oh well, just as long as he eventually regrets moving to Orlando is enough for me.
While I think that any player that speaks too strongly too soon deserves serious comeuppance, the thought that McGrady fits into the lack of fundamentals show off mode of player is ridiculous. He absolutely carries his team and plays up to the level of the type of contract he is given. As for fundamentals, he has solid shooting percentages, a better than 2:1 Assist to Turnover ratio, ranks in the top 15 in 21 categories all while being the one guy on a team that defenses know can seriously hurt them.
Save your derision for the stereotypical NBA player you mention for someone that actually deserves it like Rasheed Wallace, Glenn Robinson, or Ricky Davis.
WAHHH!!! I want money for playing basketball!!
[sub]actually, I want money for playing baseball, but the sentiment is the same[/sub]
If you think T-Mac is a thug, you need to read a little about him. Anything but a thug. Yeah, he got what he deserved after the second round comment. And I was going for the Magic too.
T-Mac a thug? Wtf comes up with this shit?
Try Iverson, or Marbury, thems some thugs!
PS, look at T-Mac’s stats, and shut your piehole.
Hey, I agree that T-Mac got a moment of well-earned “poetic justice”, but the statement above is pretty silly. T-Mac went toe the MAgic in teh summer of “the Grant Hill sweepstakes” and the “Tim Duncan tease”. He was very definitely considered 3[sup]rd[/sup] prize on that wish list. No way he went to Orlando expecting to be “the Man”. He went to Orlando expecting to be surrounded by championship quality talent – and ain’t that a little ironic kick in the teeth.
Personally, I feel sorry for him (especially when you factor in Orlando having to give up Ben Wallace in the Greant Hill sign-and-trade deal.) He seems like a generally good guy who really works to improve his game and cares passionately about winning. Here’s hoping that Gooden and Giricec manage to fill the holes in their game and give him some reliable support (and a forward who can shoot and play D would be a nice addition, too.)
What’s all this “thug” bullshit anyway? Please tell me what you know about any of the players mentioned that makes him a thug. Jason Kidd, there’s a thug- he hit his wife. Apart from that, and a couple immature outbursts from Ricky Davis et al, how did “thug” become the catchphrase for older guys to belittle the younger generation of players because they have a different style of dress, speech, and appearance? Punk I can sort of understand, but thug? Like they’re all out committing random acts of violence?
As for McGrady’s “going it alone” approach, it seems to me that Drew Gooden and Giricek (or Matt Miller) plus Garrity and a few assorted bangers and high energy types is enough talent to compete with the rest of the East. Seriously, Drew Gooden’s not better than more than half of the power forwards starting for Eastern Conference teams? The Magic were an 8 seed, and considering the teams they had to beat out to get it, I don’t see how McGrady really made the rest of the team into more than they “should” have been. It’s not like they won the East, or even the Atlantic. One more thing: remember when that kid got shot by the Beltway sniper and McGrady flew him out to shoot around with some of the Magic (McGrady’s the kid’s favorite player) ? I thought he was one of the good guys in the league. I think he might have just gotten caught up in all the MVP hype over the course of the season, and developed a sort of Messianic complex about the way he had to carry his team. That’s just the way I see it, anyway.
Well Iverson has been in prison, covered in gang tats, allegedly pulled a gun on a family member not to long ago, and may have been a target for a driveby shooting a few weeks ago in which one of his entourage was hit.
That’s a thug.
So that leaves what? He has cornrows, talks different, is vovered in tattoos, and came from the projects. I said he wasn’t a thug, not that he was Petey Princeton.
“covered in tattoos” obviously…
It was quite a bit more then a mere “fight.” It was a near-riot at a bowling alley, and Iverson struck one person with a steel chair at least 2 times and threw a chair at someone else. Legally, the fight sure did happen.
NBA Thugs:
Ron Artest
The entire Portland Trailblazers
Allen Iverson
NBA “nice guys”:
John Stockton
…everybody else is just somewhere in the middle like the rest of us. Dressed in nice felt purple hats and riding in limos with hotties, but still just like the rest of us 
Artest is definitely NOT a thug. The media sure knows how to blow shit out of proportion. He works hard and plays hard period. He commits flagrant fouls WITHOUT hurting anyone the old-school physical basketball way. Also, if you really look at the flagrant fouls, some of them were bullshit calls merely because of his reputation. He has a serious issue with controlling anger especially post-losing and is working on it.
He was shooting jumpers in Conseco after the first-round elimination as everyone left after cleaning their lockers. He played his heart out in the series. I love the guy.
Anyone else think TMac simply forgot that the first round got changed to best-of-7? After all, he would have been right if David “I Rig the NBA” Stern hadn’t changed the format to ensure that the Lakers get back to the Finals.
RE: The Portland Trailblazers
It is with a big smile and happy heart that I announce to the world the resignation of Bob “Jackass” Whitsitt, the GM of the Blazers. It was just confirmed by the local news here and I don’t know that anything at this moment could make me hapier.
well, maybe if they got rid of Sheed, and Wells. That would be good too… And maybe a couple of other players too. I do like Cheeks though, and I think another year with some strong Asst. Coaching will bring him to the level he needs to be at.