Thank you for your input. I respectfully disagree with so much of what you have said and the reasons for your saying them that I won’t post it here.
Dude, seriously. You engaged in a thread that got a little heated. If the mods really wanted to, I suppose they could go back through the thread and pass out warnings to most of the participants, including me. Is that the kind of board you want? Really?
Get over it already.
No, I want a board where everybody is treated in the same way.
I agree
Then find a board where everybody earns the same treatment. :rolleyes:
Everybody was treated the same way. We were all equally not warned. Well, OK…my not warning was shinier than yours, but I’m special like that.
See, you get it. People who don’t get it just don’t get it.
Technical nitpick: But posters are limited to occasional use of asshole when in the Pit. In Great Debates, if he is “lured into bad behavior” by following someone else’s example, he might be thus victimized numerous times and use this vulgarity repeatedly.
“Mods, have mercy!” she foreshadowed.
Then you should find another board.
Seriously, I think it’s fairly well established that certain mods have certain biases, and those are not going to go away anytime soon. (There have been many, many threads about this. Lots of posters point out the biases and the mods deny, deny, deny. Rinse and repeat.)
So you can either learn to live with them, stay out of their forums, or leave. I’ve choosen option 2, because I don’t have the time or the energy to waste fighting a losing battle against a lost cause.
If you would like to start a separate thread discussing the policy of not insulting other posters outside the Pit, feel free to do so.
Why are you goading him here? He has said that he won’t be continuing the discussion, yet you push him to do so. What purpose does that serve Dex?
Zoe, Presuming that’s supposed to be quoting me, I’d humbly request that you quote me accurately. I said
in response to the defense that it was okay to call Una an anonymous coward because that’s the standard at Slashdot. Your quotebox of
is putting significantly different words in my mouth.
As I had pointed out to Second, and in the interest of precision, I did not actually call Second an asshole and any interpretation that I did is made only by those who implicitly accept that Second was indeed someone who didn’t know what the fuck (s)he was talking about, was already trying to insult someone who the rest of us respect, and that Second’s ploy of saying it is okay to do here because it is an allusion to what (s)he and others do elsewhere is no defense whatsoever. Whether not all of those things were or were not implicitly obvious to all reading and participating in the thread is a separate issue. Yes, I know that my post was still an implicit slapdown as those things were implicitly obvious and was a thus a violation of the spirit of the rule against personal insults in GD, but I did phrase it in such a way as to not violate the letter of the law. Something that Second who claims to be a lawyer, should understand and even appreciate. Still I’d not have whined if I got a warning for the post. Or if mod wisdom had kept a tighter rein in that thread from early on.
Really though? “Asshole” is “limited to occasional use” in the Pit now? Wow. I did not know and I hope we don’t all get too constipated. If only we could limit the assholes themselves to occasional!
Yeah, I’ve noticed at least one person who doesn’t get it…
From my original post:
From your response:
I agree that that is indeed putting different words in your mouth. In a quotation, as far as I am concerned, any difference in meaning is significant. And any rearrangement of words is significant.
At the time that I posted the quotation, I had read your original statement, but do not recall the exact wording. I certainly did not notice that the wording was any different from what another had posted in this thread.
My quote came from this thread. I was actually quoting what Sinaijon had said that you had said. This was a careless but unintentional mistake on my part. I promise never ever ever to trust Sinaijon again.
I’m afraid it’s true that the word asshole is limited in the Pit. So is bitch. There is a new program on TV that has “BeYatch” (or however it’s spelled) in the title. I will avert my eyes.
No offense to you, Sinaijon, Tom, The Stone, a leaf, an unfound door intended…
Zoe no worries. I hesitated about even correcting it.
And I must admit that “a leaf, an unfound door intended …” has whooshed over my head. Is there a reference that I am missing? A pun?
I do not spend very much time Pitside; how strictly do the mods actually enforce these mockworthy rules? What I’ve seen in my little time there is pretty much ignoring them except for the occasional poster who is intentionally and provocatively flaunting them (e.g. putting “Fuck” in the title, or repetitively posting “cunt” often in extra large font). Is that your experience too? Actually relevant to this thread - I get the impression that ever since the big outcry over these silly rules that the mods have been lax on enforcing any of the rules anywhere - has that been any one else’s impression as well?
MODERATOR NOTE:
When using the quote-tags, quotes need to be accurate. This is one of our rules. Think of the way you would handl a quote in a research paper. Standard editing techniques are OK, such as elipses when words are left out, use of [sic], etc, just as in a theme paper or formal research paper.
If you want to paraphrase or satirize, don’t use quote-tags.
Also, Zoe, please note that the name is DSeid not “Dr Seid.”
In terms of the Pit, we’re fairly liberal about what can be said, but there are limits.
:dubious:
Not anymore.
Generally, the rule on thread titles got relaxed a while back. The language rules regarding posts remain in place.
[QUOTE=Gfactor]
I’m not taking a living constitution approach to the list of words that shall not be spoken. [I apply it as written.] Here it is:
Restricted language in the Pit - The BBQ Pit - Straight Dope Message Board
I’ll let folks know by moderator note if they’re anywhere close to exceeding the occsional use limit for “expressions . . . normally considered vulgar.” There will be no surprise warnings. So far, nobody is even close.
[/QUOTE]
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11221820&postcount=171
[QUOTE=Gfactor]
I’m willing to give each poster the benefit of the doubt, whether they *should *have gotten a clue or not.
I explained my philosophy about this here: http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=10872571#post10872571
My approach in every forum has been to mod note first and warn later, except in rare cases. I see no reason to deviate from that approach here.
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http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11099744&postcount=5
Gfactor
Pit Moderator
I’m glad that you reposted the rule. It is actually different from what I remembered. Most of the time I don’t have a problem with refraining from directing those expressions at other posters. There are exceptions for the truly vile, but those folks are usually drive-bys anyway. But I do need to curse at random sometimes. Like during the Iron Bowl. “* Fuck Alabama!* War Eagle!” etc.
And even though I don’t remember how I found the Straight Dope, I do remember using Cocksucker in the Pit very early on just to show that I had ovaries. Then I found out that it was actually offensive to some people I liked and I hadn’t thought about that issue before. Okay to offend fellow Presbyterians; not okay to offend friendly gays.
Sorry about screwing up you name DSeid. Can you tell I haven’t seen my shrink since last fall? Someone pays attention to a post that I make and I start calling him “Doctor.”
I am pretty much in agreement with you that the rules are in place if needed and that maybe our comments did make a difference. I do remember Ed’s reassurance also that the changes would not be all that drastic anyway.
Only a slight and almost meaningless pun for “a stone, a leaf, and unfound door.”
Here are the opening lines to Thomas Wolfe’s Look Homeward, Angel. I’ve thrown in a Battlestar Gallactica site for a cite.
Opening lines with Battlestar Gallactica episode commentary
But where were we?
Zoe, really no worries … and that is my profession - and half of my last name - not a psychiatrist, a pediatrician - I had thought that you had somehow remembered that from some past thread…
And despite the fact that C K Dexter Haven felt the need to pound you with the quote rule after you had already acknowledged the error I do get the impression that enforcement has been in the other direction, lax, lately. The Pit rules are loosely applied and GD is often allowed to get quite a bit snarky before anything is “suggested”. The thread that spawned Second’s inane whine of an op had indeed been very snarky for GD for most of its run. I think in days past a tighter rein would have been kept … but then everyone had a clear place to vent to whatever degree they desired to in the Pit, and that is at least officially, no longer the case …