We’ve talked about this one a few times on the SDMB. The class of monkeys only makes taxonomic sense if it includes apes, and the class of apes only makes taxonomic sense if it includes humans. So humans all descended from apes, and apes all descended from monkeys. It’s just that the monkeys we descended from are not the monkeys living now, but monkeys living many millions of years ago.
Yes. If they had a T-shirt with the message “Band is my religion” I would think that perfectly acceptable under the First Amendment. No one would think that established Band as a state religion, or seriously put down religion in any way. It would be just making a humorous reference to religion.
That quote just jumped off the page at me. Ouch. The stupid, it burns.
They are certainly idiots. But you know, I’ve come to realize that this one problem with the Internet – now one goofball school out in nowheresville does something ridiculous, and all of us are up in arms! Is it really that important? I’ve decided that for me, the answer is no.
Obviously. Ukulele, on the other hand…
Considering how widespread belief in creationism is, and how it’s followers always try to push it on everyone else , yes I think it’s important. Especially in a forum with a tagline about “fighting ignorance”; this is one of the pervasive forms of ignorance out there.
It beats daytime TV.
The funny thing is, the shirts didn’t promote evolution anyway, so even if it were a religious thing it would still be neutral. It only proves that these morons are only interested in suppressing any ideas that they don’t like. Frankly that’s even more disgusting than their ignorance of science.
The brass did NOT evolve. They sprang perfectly formed from the mind of Sax.
You’re not fighting anyone’s ignorance – we all think the school is a bunch of nitwits. All you’re doing is driving yourself crazy.
Really? I didn’t think you’d take offense to that. I mean, you DO despise religion and the religious, especially Christians. You don’t make any bones about it. And those who’re “against” evolution think that the, uh, “pro-evolutionists” hate religion, and them. I think it’s a perfectly apt comparison.
I’m actually surprised that ALL of the kids returned the shirts. I’d have kept mine.
So neuturality means you can’t express an opinion. Facepalm
Care to elaborate?
Evolution is a proven scientific theory and attempting to consider a religious/political issue doesn’t make sense anymore then banning someone from wearing a shirt with the Globe on it since it’s opposed to Flat Earthers.
Thank you.
Or entertaining ourselves with their stupidity. Sometimes it really has more to do with the “watching the train wreck and pointing and laughing” value than fighting ignorance.
They weren’t complaining because the shirts were technically inaccurate, they got the shirts returned because OMG EVILUTION!
Movable Printed Type!? We must keep this from the serfs, lest they gain literacy and threaten the Landed Gentry!
What amazes me is that the US is (as far as I know), the only “civilised” country where there are significant numbers of people who not only believe that Creationism is an accurate account of how everything got started, but they also publicly declare that “fact”, AND they try and suppress the modern, scientifically approved & generally regarded as fact by the rest of the planet version from other people.
And the US wonders why the rest of the planet has such a low collective opinion of some of its constituent states…
Well, they probably don’t approve of sax education either.