Yeah, one supposes that might be true. However, what matters isn’t how the weenie-wagger meant his wagging. What manners is how his unwilling audience reacts to his wagging. I mean, someone could take a shit on your living room sofa meaning to be funny, but are you going to take it that way?
Hey, you’re the one that came into the thread bringing your own personal flashing story with you and requested my input on it. You are also the one who described yourself as
. Right now, I’m not sure what you think you are accomplishing by puffing up with personal outrage. See, if you post something, it is open for comment. You posted about yourself. If you didn’t want to be commented on, you shouldn’t have made yourself the topic of conversation. See how that works? My personal opinion is that if I had made the “mistake” of flashing any of my private bits in public and actually considered it an embarassing mistake that I regret and would prefer be forgotten, I probably wouldn’t bring it up on a message board with readers all over the world. OTOH, if I actually considered the whole incident rather deliciously naughty, I might stealth brag about it on a board or two through faux contrition.
You’re a real prince, you know that?
Nah, it was simply an attempt to reason with someone who that is beyond their capabilities. Had I known that before hand, I would’ve used my time more productively, like teaching blind people to drive. And it’s not that it’s so deliciously naughty, it’s that I don’t take your faux outrage seriously. Being an exhibitionist = due to degree, possibly serious. Silly dude on the internet who thinks all sins, even a first and only offense, are equal = not only not serious, but to be made light of for being so ridiculous.
Also, in case you continue to confuse explanations of one’s past as a “stealth brag,” remember not everyone is stuck in the mindset that you seem to share with your school kids.
Alright, time out. faithfool and Scumpup in particular, feel free to take your present discussion to the Pit, if you must, but at this point, you two are attacking each other and not really in the neighborhood of the topic at hand any longer. And Scumpup, it’s very hard not to read some of what you’re posting in here as deliberately misreading and/or misrepresenting what other people are saying. Knock it off.
The topic of this thread is whether a particular prank warranted the charges that were being put forward. Analogies to personal experiences can make sense in that vein, but that doesn’t make it appropriate to turn the thread into personal attacks. Please stay on topic.
My apologies. As described, that was skating closer to the line than I realized. I’ll bow out then, as my point has been made anyway.
Read it in Church Lady’s voice. It kills!!!
ETA: Apologies as I just saw Asimovian’s message. Please delete as you see fit.
Anyhoo…I’m still of the view that this needs to be punished as a “stupid prank”, not “full-on sex offense”. Restitution for any returned and replaced yearbooks (not all of them - I’m guessing a number of classmates will want to keep their copies) plus a couple of weekends spent litter-picking on the school grounds or something similar ought to drive home the message that stupid pranks have consequences without ruining the kid’s entire life.
Well isn’t that special…
Back to the topic, this happens alot in class group pictures where some kid will flash some sort of sign and you might have to look under a microscope to find it but they do it.
I’m talking about the fact that there are no repercussions to his actions. Campus rapists get away with this shit because women see very few people get punished and don’t report because what’s the point. And if you think athletes in college don’t get away with a lot of shit, you’ve got to be fucking kidding me.
I’m not saying it’s necessarily the same people who would pull these pranks and who engage in worse behavior. I thought that was clear in what I said.
No repercussions? Kid is 18 & just getting started in life and his NAME and picture are all over the internet for this stupid stunt. Every potential employer who googles his name will discover this. Also AFAIK he is still being charged with multiple misdemeanors. To say he got off unscathed is naive.
So as I understand it your point is that although he hasn’t done anything significant wrong he should have repercussions because otherwise rapists will think there are no repercussions for committing rape.
Gotcha.
I’m still trying to wrap my mind around the concept that the very *sight *of a body part is so offensive as to cause emotional trauma. Yeah, I’d say that’s a pretty good example of prudishness. I hope in a another life time - god knows it won’t be this one- I’ll see the day when people laugh at our puritanical notions of obscenity the way we laugh at the Victorians who were scandalized by the mere sight of a woman’s ankle.
I certainly got a bad case of the vapors when I saw the uncensored photo that I had to hunt down. Luckily my hand fan and fainting couch were nearby.
Maricopa County? As in the count that keeps re-electing that dictator Joe Arpaio? No wonder its excessive, sounds just like them
Well personally I think the way to deal with this is for an editor and school principal to go over class pictures with a microscope, find such things, punish the student (quietly) and then edit it out with software.
Yep, it’s almost exactly that prudish.
Funny thing, I grew up (like many of us, I guess) at a time when things were getting less prudish; through the late sixties, seventies and onward. I remember a documentary on Australian swimwear called (I’ve just googled it) “From Neck-to-Knee To Nude” which traced the seemingly relentless diminution in the amount of fabric in Australian swimwear (same as most other warm Western nations I guess). It came out in 1985 apparently. As a man who is not exactly averse to the female form I wasn’t disappointed by the trend
But of course I was being naïve; what is old is new again and these things are cyclic not linear. Things are getting slowly more and more prudish.
That’s Numberwang!