Highlander: The Source

Lizard: Sure. Though I can’t get the sick idea that somewhere out there, there really is a NecroCon2007 going as we speak.

Yeah, the sword abuse pissed me off too. Duncan’s katana had some very heavy meaning to him, and he seemed indifferent to its’ loss.

Between this eastern European trash mode of production, and the wrestling, SciFi is really pissing me off.

Never did get around to watching.

Based on all the feedback, I’m guessing recording over it tonight will not be a mistake. Thanks for saving me the wasted time!

Whatwhatwhat? Argh! Somebody please spoil this!

Already been spoiled. Yep, the poorly-defined supernatural bodybuilder albino bad guy just snapped it in half. After that, McLeod used two slightly long knives.

No, I mean like the whole movie plot in a nutshell. What’s this about planets? And a little Methos? How much worse can they screw up the franchise?

Well, some of us liked the 2 Dune miniserieses. But other than that… hmm… nope!

(technically this crapfest was made for theaters and dumped on tv, but that doesn’t help much.)

Uwe Boll would have been embarassed to have released this, so it is no surprise it didn’t make a theatrical run.

I’ve tried 3 times to write this out, but the thing was so bad that I couldn’t hardly pay attention (like a Highlander II, but not so well thought out).

3 or 4 months after the TV show ends, the world turns into a post-apocalyptic wasteland of lawlessness and fire. Then the immortals decide to find the grail but Duncan doesn’t want to play because he’s all full of angst. Then some stuff happens and some die and that one chick hears voices and they drive around a while and the ugly guy says some stuff. The Flash beats up people and runs around a lot. Then there was some heavy metal bikers partying, and Duncan saves the day.

I don’t know how many of these are actual Sci-Fi Channel movies or ones they just bought the rights to - but some of them might be OK. When it comes to mini-series, though, you’ve got Battlestar Galactica, of course, and I think Tin Man looks fantastic.

One of the immortals, an astronomer, notices that the planets are shifting out of their normal orbits, and lining up in a nice alignment. Somehow he deduces that a big blast of radiation is going to nail earth at the moment of the alignment. The last time that this happened, several millenia ago, two immortals almost offed everyone but themselves, and almost got the Prize. This time around, it comes down to Duncan, Methos, and two new immortals, versus a really cartoonish villain.

Near the end, a bunch of mortals are trying to kill the immortals. Methos, in a fit of altruism that even Methos admits is badly out of character, sacrifices himself to save Duncan. In the end, Duncan gets the Prize, which includes the ability to sire children. I don’t remember them stating the kid’s name, but I think that simster believes that they named him Methos.

Well, I think they tried to end it. My guess is, they said, “Our actors are getting too old to play immortal characters, so let’s kill off everyone and give the Prize to Duncan.”

Planets. Going out of orbit. Jeebus, it is as bad as Highlander II.

Okay, so if one were a Star Wars fan and hunted down the Star Wars Holiday Special just in the interest of completeness knowing it would be awful, and one were a Highlander fan also interested in completeness, how would watching The Source compare to the Star Wars Holiday special?

I loved the original “Highlander.” There.Was.No.Highlander.2.movie.Involving.Aliens. Highlander 2 and 3(mistakenly called Highlander 3 and 4) were ok ways to waste some time. I’ve seen every episode of the series and I’ve read most of the books. I’ve watched the cartoon series and have been to an actual convention. I’ve searched for (and read) Highlander fanfic.
Joe got of lucky, he wasn’t in most of this super crap-fest.
Forget immortality, I want the two hours of my life that I wasted back.
Possibly, the ONLY worthwhile thing was the possibility that all the immortals had misinterpreted the “There can be only one” line.

Peace- DESK

No, it’s not even explicitly stated that a child was born, just the ability to have them was won… I was basically stating that I had no interest in “Duncan Knows Best” and picked a ‘likely’ name for the firstborn.

Do we really need to spoiler this crap?

Also, I think this is a SDMB first - universal agreement that this movie completely sucked. I have yet to read a defense of it…

Wow… you must really hate yourself.

I haven’t watched “The Source,” indeed I haven’t been a fan of most of the Highlander franchise (but I generally take fans’ word for it that the series had some really good episodes). I love the concept, but I think any continuing work with the franchise should’ve kept the scope much more narrow; no saving the world shit, no “this is the end, so-and-so wins it all,” and IMO no detailed explanation of what the immortals are.

The way I would have done it, would be to periodically pick a new character, tell us about his/her background, what their motivations and personal conflicts are, set up an antagonist and show them encounter and fight one another over a stretch of time. Rinse and repeat. I think you would avoid a lot of the cheese and ridiculousness that way, and you wouldn’t be tied to the dilemma of what happens to a given character as their actor ages. Plus, by more frequently changing the storyline, you can wrap up stories in a season or two (or less), so that the series can run long without it ever becoming difficult for new audiences to come into it (kind of like Dr. Who). Oh, as a bonus, provide some way other than death (or victory over all others) for an immortal’s life to end. Make it something that is fairly rare, but that way the occasional protagonist gets the happy ending, rather than the ambiguous one (I’d have most “ride off into the sunset,” ie, no definite end) or a bad one (occasionally have the bad guy win).

Actually, H3K, you just described the best episodes of the series.

hmm… is that so?

You’ll have to forgive me, I only ever watched a couple episodes of the TV series. My impression was that it was more of an ongoing saga.

Now there’s a question; If you were to compile a list of which Highlander movies, episodes, books, etc, stood out as the best, what would be on it? What would you recommend to someone with limited exposure to the franchise?

If I could seek out a good handfull of episodes of the show that are considered “bests,” I might have to reconsider my thoughts on the TV series.

I’d like to see Michael Bay take a shot at this. At least lots of stuff 'splodes in the Michael Bay productions, and the gratuitous stupidity is at times entertaining. maybe in Bay’s version, the heads explode when you cut them off.

See the above complaints about the recent “sci-fi original movie’s” poor filming of the sword-fights, and the lack of any real style or technique. Bay is the king of jerky, awkward action scenes that are almost unintelligible because of the camera-work. I actually enjoyed the Transformers movie, schlock-fest that it was, but would’ve liked to have been able to more clearly see the action and see the transformers themselves get more actual screen time spent on character development. Every fan of that series will tell you, right off, that the human characters are the macguffin, not the heroes.

In Bay’s Highlander, there wouldn’t be any character development for the immortals, you’d just have an undeveloped bad guy stalking some random normal people, and the good immortal would just show and fight him off as a deus-ex-machina. There might be some brief exposition. And the sword-fights, the whole point of the franchise, would most likely be replaced with gun-fu and/or wire-fu, or would be poorly acted, dull, and full of bizarre camera work as though filmed by someone experiencing a seizure. :rolleyes:

And you just described the source…