Does any one on this board know of any disgruntled Hillary supporters who are now planning on voting for McCain/Palin?
If so, please provide a short description of this individual or, better yet, their line of reasoning.
I know a woman who was absolutely going to vote for McCain, and she was a Hillary supporter. However, Palin changed her mind. Now she’s voting for Obama…
My dad, supposedly. I’ve not pressed him on it because I don’t really want to know and whatever answer he gives me will probably disgust me, anyway. He constantly goes off on tangents about conservatives and Republicans, and often says he supports both gay rights and a woman’s right to choose (though I sometimes wonder if he might not just be parroting my own vocal support) so I’m at a loss as to how he would vote for McCain and Palin based just on policy and honestly think it may be latent racism.
He’s not a bigot, but he is a blue collar sixty year old Southern male and it took years of yelling him down to get him to stop using the word nigger, even when he tried arguing it wasn’t a racial term and that he knew plenty of whites he would call the same thing.
The woman who sits next to me at work claims to be an avid feminist. Her basic position on everything is that men are the enemy and have ruined everything. From nuclear war to her marriage, if it has a penis, it’s to blame. She was devastated when Hillary lost. Her hatred of McCain (and all women-hating republicans) is now evaporating and she’s going to vote for him and hope he dies. I occasionally bait her by asking if she’d vote for Condoleezza Rice.
I hope she’s atypical.
One, I can’t believe anyone would “hate” a political leader who is not a Hitler-type. Two, how can anyone vote for someone and hope they’d die?
I hope she’s atypical, too. Crazy.
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A very good friend of mine is traditionally liberal and was a big Hillary supporter. Since the Palin announcement, she’s 99 percent certain she’s voting for McCain.
Demographic information:
Female
Liberal but not a hard-core democrat, votes for candidates rather than parties.
Early 40s
Jewish
Lesbian
Small business owner
She wasn’t wild about Obama. She thinks he’s a self-important celebrity with no credible experience who thinks it’s his destiny to lead us poor misguided fools into the light of reason and social justice, even if he can’t define reason or social justice.
She was going to vote for him anyway simply because she likes the idea of the U.S. finally electing a minority to the White House, even if she doesn’t like the particular individual.
When McCain picked Palin, however, she developed a newfound admiration for him. She sees the move as exceptionally bold. Even though she disagrees with many of Palin’s positions, she admires her character and candor. She likes that Palin has a son who’s going to Iraq, and she is repulsed by the smear campaign Obama’s supporters and the MSM have launched against her simply because she’s not a woman who toes the liberal line.
She wants a woman president, has nothing to do with McCain.
I guess I was more of a Hillary supporter than anything else. I didn’t intend to vote for anyone after Hillary bailed. It’s not because they aren’t Hillary. Both Obama and McCain have always been lacking in making me feel secure about them.
But the idea of Palin running the country when/if McCain kicks the bucket, scares the hell out of me. So, Obama may get my vote.
Reading quick, I read that as Apocalypto.
And, you know, spitting out grapefruit rinds at victims and laughing during a beheading celebration seems her style.
Yes, but her feelings were described as “hatred for McCain”, right? It was fading, but it was there.
It didn’t, “have nothing to do with McCain.”
No, the Disgruntled Hillary Supporters I know were planning on not voting at all.
My girlfriend is a disgruntled Hillary supporter. She was planning on casting a write-in vote for Hillary as a protest, and maybe drawing little frowny faces around Obama’s name or something.
Then McCain picked Palin, and my girlfriend said, “holy shit that bitch is crazy,” and abandoned the write-in plan. She is taking no risks; she’ll be checking the Obama box.
My name is Carnivorousplant, and I approve this message.
I hang out with a big group of Hillary supporters: old (50+) white professional women. (My mom and her friends.)
I had dinner with them the night that Palin was announced as the VP pick. They were all horrified. They felt McCain was trying to go after their votes in the worst possible way. These are very educated women. Most have two master’s degrees at least. They look at Palin’s pathetic educational record and feel that she is not even up to snuff to hold their jobs, let alone the job of governor, VP, or President.
They were offended by McCain’s pick. Their attitude was, “We’re not stupid enough to vote for just any woman.”
Is her small business a cheese shop, by wild chance?
We may know the same person!!
I know one, and it’s pure identity politics. She supported Hillary because Clinton has 2 X chromosomes. When Hillary lost, she shifted to McCain because she doesn’t “trust a black man” to be president. The Palin announcement only reinforced her feelings. “She’s a mom!”
I don’t think she has a clue as to what either side’s policies or stands on the issues are.
I cannot understand why anyone who really wanted Hillary Clinton to be president would now vote for John McCain, regardless of who his running mate is. The vote isn’t for the VP, the vote is for the president, and with his current health and the state of health care available to the wealthy in America today, there is an excellent chance that McCain will serve at least one full term. If McCain does serve two terms, he’d be 80 when he was finished. My father is nearly 80 and, except for having to take it easy as he recovers from a hip replacement, he is very vital and could easily cope with the stress of being president, at least as well as Ronald Reagan did (remember the famous Reagan naps?)
Voting for McCain because his VP is a Vaginal-American (thanks, Samantha Bee!) is like voting for Joe Biden because Obama is black. I wanted Hillary Clinton to get the nomination because of her political philosophy on such issues as health care, child care, justice and individual liberties. And frankly, I thought she’d earned it. Now I’ll vote for Barak Obama because of his political philosophy on such issues as health care, child care, justice and individual liberties.
Watch it, whippersnapper.
Look, the Democrats have had a serious hook for a lot of American women for a few decades, simply because those women do not want other people to tell them to have babies. Women over fifty are more concerned over the issue because they remember when women had much less control over their reproduction.
But women are waking up to the fact that abortion is like minimum wage; neither party wants to resolve the issue, because it is just too handy for campaigning. And most swing voters secretly reassure themselves that they can afford a trip to Canada in a crisis.
Women really want to see that highest glass ceiling not just cracked, but shattered. They really want a woman in the Executive Mansion doing something besides serving tea to Senators’ wives or providing a bull’s-eye for a gleefully insulting press-corp.
These women are carefully comparing the relative health of each Supreme Court Justice and John McCain; they are carefully evaluating the risk of one more ultra-conservative justice against the possibility of a female president.
And they are saving their pennies for that trip to Canada. For themselves, or their daughters, or their grand-daughters.