That’s just IT! Why should we have to jump through extra hoops to enjoy the same benefits you and Joe do just because you said “I do” a few days ago? Why should we have to carry around a briefcase full of legal documents that take an attorney months to draw up to get the same rights that you get just by saying “I do” and getting your marriage license?
Why should we have to worry that not matter what documents we draw up, some states won’t recognize them anyway? Why should my (hypothetical) lover’s family be able to take his estate, even against his express wishes. (I can provide cites for this if you need them.) Why can’t we just be treated equally?
As is your tendency to fight against straw men and parrot the same attacks over and over.
I don’t think believing in God has anything to do with standing in front of a judge. And it’s obviously not because you’re too dense, but for some other reason you refuse to see that I have addressed the legal and religious issues separately, and you continue to combine them in order to make it look like there’s a Christian conspiracy against you. What was that about crosses?
And let’s not forget that you read a bit of (untrue) dirt in another thread and it burned such a hole in your ass that you had to run right to the pit and start this monstrosity? Without bothering to find out (or even care) if it was true - because hell, you can use it to malign Jerseydiamond and Joe_Cool!
But I’m struggling on my cross to play the martyr. :rolleyes:
My evidence is 11 pages (and counting) of unfounded attacks against us. Top that.
It’s really difficult to separate the secular and religious aspects of this debate when the main opposition to changes in secular law comes from organized religion.
I know this isn’t the answer you want, but you have to do what you have to do.
NOT because I think it’s right, but because it is the only way.
No, I don’t think you should have to carry around a load of papers to prove you are the beneficiary or power of attorney.
Maybe there can be a card made up, something like a organ donor card, given by an attorney, stating you are who you are to this person. Does that sound dumb?
I cannot just go up to my husbands bank and say, “show me his statement.”, they are gonna want proof that I am his wife. That means I will have to get my documentation (marriage certificate), and still have him present.
You say that some states will not recognize documents drawn up by a lawyer. Like what? Just curious, not debating it!
Ok, idiot. I’ll address your drooling idiocy. Now, moron, which tripe would that be? That if you don’t like the system you should work to change it? Or that the majority of people seem to want things the way they are, and that’s the way democracy works? Or could it be that I’m not going to change my religious beliefs to please you? Guess what? Things are the way they are. Work for change or shut up and deal with it.
Either way, does it really surprise you that I think you’re an ass and not deserving of a legitimate answer?
Regarding your rather, shall we say, interesting view of democracy: this country has a Constitution that’s supposed to prevent the tyranny of the majority from riding roughshod over the rights of the minority.
You know, I don’t know why I let myself get so worked up over the crap you say here. I just looked over the thread at every post you’ve made, and they all appear to be calculated jabs just to stir up anger. You haven’t posted a single thing here that has actually contributed to anything - only insults.
Of course, that seems to be the only language you understand, since it’s the only one you speak. But I notice you still jab, jab, jab instead of actually addressing what I say.
And the Constitution says someplace that gays are entitled to Christian marriages in Christian churches?
Where is that? is it before or after the part that says “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof…”? Because I’ve never seen it.
You are a great deal of sound and fury signifying nothing.
Yet another way for you to evade answering any questions. Has this just been an exercise in how you could avoid answering anything while annoying everyone?