It’s the same for medium. So it seems like you only lose a little bit of Adam in the end, and that at a certain point in the game, you’ll have all you need to get whatever tonics and splices you want. So might as well save them to get the bonuses. Unless they’re never that good.
So I was at the end of Fort Frolic, exploring all the little side rooms before heading to the Metro station, but I couldn’t get to this one downstairs area because the staircase was covered by a grate. Anyone know what’s up with that?
This thread renforced my loathing of PC gaming. When I buy a game I don’t want to have to go to the readme file, tweak my system, buy new hardware or chuck my system everytime I get a new game. My games work everytime I pop them into the 360.
I know just the grate you’re talking about. I ran around that room for five minutes, trying to find a switch to open it, but couldn’t find anything. Then the grate opened all by itself. Might be a timed thing. There’s nothing down there that you need, but it is one of the creepier rooms in the game, so well worth checking out if you can figure out how to get down there.
But on the other hand, there are people for whom that doesn’t work. Sure, 99.9% of the time, it works fine, but there are plenty of cases where there is some bug or glitch in a console version, and then you’re fucked. It’s less so now that the consoles can go online, but there still aren’t a lot of patches released for consoles, because not all have harddrives, and then it gets into an issue of the patch is on the system, not the actual game, etc…And I’ve heard of LOTS of stories of 360s getting the “red circle.” Not related to Bioshock, just them getting bricked for whatever reason. It’s a lot easier for me to replace a stick of RAM, or update a driver, then to it might be for someone to get a new 360 (or at the very least cheaper.)
One of the most famous that I remember in recent years was a bad glitch for KOTOR for the X-Box. If, during a certain cut-scene, you didn’t have a certain person either in your party, or not active, or something like that, the game froze and you had to load from an earlier point and remember to do whatever it is you needed to do.
I was once told by a Microsoft representative that I had to upgrade my XBox to play the newest Tony Hawk game. Apparently, the earlier consoles had a DVD drive made by a different manufacturer, that wouldn’t read some of the more recent discs. He wanted me to send my XBox in (and pay a not-insignificant fee) to get the drive replaced.
I’ve also spent more on repairing my 360 than I have on repairing my PC, although I did get a refund on that when Microsoft unilaterally extended all 360 warranties, because of a severe manufacturing defect. When they sent it back the first time, the disc tray wouldn’t open. Something inside had come loose, and was blocking it.
And there’s at least one bug in the console Bioshock that I’ve bitched about in this thread.
Admittedly, overall consoles are a hell of a lot less of a hassel than PCs, but they’re hardly problem-free. And as they become more powerful and more versatile (and therefore, more like PCs themselves) these problems are only going to get worse.
As you may have guessed by reading this post, I do in fact have a computer. Several in fact. I have tried to game on PC. I have never had a game which worked perfectly on my computer. I don’t want to have to reconfigure my system or buy new hardware everytime a good new game comes out. Sure there are some glitches in console games. Usually the crappy ones. No worse than the most minor glitches I got on PC. The only person I know who got the red circle of death sent the 360 to Microsoft and got it fixed for free.
Usually this complaint comes from people with extremely outdated PC’s. They get a Pc 5 years ago and are upset that the new game coming out now won’t play on it.
Well, Bioshock won’t play on the original XBOX either, you’ll have to get a 360. And when Bioshock 3 comes out with Directx10 support you’ll have to go out and buy an Xbox 360.5.
In the meantime, savvy PC gamers will have spent a nominal amount of money upgrading key components in the intervinieng time and can now play Bioshock 3 with Directx11 support! 
I liked the game quite a bit. I’m going to have to upgrade my PC and play again though, because somewhere in Arcadia it started crashing all the time and I got around it by setting the resolution to 900x600 (or something like that) and playing it in windowed mode.
What parts of the game did you all like best?
I think my favorite moment of the game is when you’re in Fort Frolic and fighting a roomful of splicers to that music from The Nutcracker. It’s hard to describe just how incredible I thought it was. I put it in a spoiler box because it might not be as special if you see it coming.
A good compromise for the death system might be to have a different ending if you have to respawn more than a certain number of times because it turns out using the resurrection chambers over and over has a side effect. Something Andrew Ryan said made me think something like that would be revealed, but I guess it never was.
Argh. Once again, I went through the trouble of killing a Bid Daddy, to get NO Little Sister. And she was THERE this time! It was in Fort Frolic. I saw him at the top of some stairs, she was next to him, I placed proximity mines on the stairs, and then went to the top, launched a frag 'nade at him, and went down the stairs. I saw her RIDING ON HIM as he made his way down the stairs (and got exploded,) and then I finished him off with armor piercing machine gun rounds and…no Sister. C’mon! I saw her, she was on top of him when he came down the stairs, so why did she vanish? Sure, I got $60 out of, but I would have liked $60 AND some Adam.
I can’t say that’s ever happened to me when the LS was close to the big daddy like that. I guess you’ll just have to check for her again before firing the last shot.
According to some of the guides on www.gamefaqs.com - first you have to go into Sinclair Spirits, press the button behind the bar which opens the locked door nearby - go through that door, open the safe, use the Power to the People machine, and kill the spider slicer in there. Once you do all those things, the grate should be gone and the “More Items Downstairs” sign lights up. When I played, I never even noticed it was locked - by the time I found it I had already cleared out Sinclair Spirits and it was open.