Homosex and Abort as matters of Choice

Duh. Move the fleet to the far side of the forest moon.

I agree, I think he is saying it that way, however I do think that in history some women have actually chosen lesbianism as a way to get release and not get pregnant, but until someone finds diaries we will never know. I do know that if I had the choice of lesbianism or pregnancy and serious legal/social consequences I would have chosen lesbianism until I was actually legally married. I think that the rate of experimenting with same sex partners whether it is simpl mutual masturbation, masturbating each other or a full on homosexual encounter is far in excess of what people will fess up to. I know that I did my share of experimenting [though after I lost my cherry by a number of years] with just about everything except pedophilia, beastiality and necrophilia, and some of the kinkier ‘normal’ things like coprophilia, golden showers and full out pain.

Why are you sorry? :smiley:

Or like in other threads, you can’t understand words in context.

Unfortunately, I understand the OP perfectly – which is disconcerting to one bordering on senior years and fearing a rapid deterioration into dementia.

First, one has to clarify what is meant by homosexuality. It is possible to be a homosexual and to choose never to act upon ones desires. In that way, at least, there is choice. That is the same kind of choice that compares with the choice to have an abortion or to bear a child.

I think that is a different question from what was intended when Bush was asked the question during the debate – Is homosexuality a choice? The moderator was asking whether people choose to be homosexuals or whether they are that way by nature.

The moderator could just as easily have said, “President Bush, do people choose to be heterosexual?”

What would you have said?

Swipe to the right! Stand up, sight down, fight fight fi… nevermind.

What New Iskander is objecting to is John Kerry’s statement that, if elected, he will use force to compel gays to have lots of sex with each other. I agree, that was way out of line. National security comes first.

I realize that lesser minds may have difficulty comprehending the meaning of this section of the text, which is admittedly obscure. However, after hanging upside down from the ceiling by my toes for the last few hours, I think I understand it. New Iskander means that Kerry, ever the biologist, has discovered that Darwin invented abortions in On the Origin of Species. Darwin believes, and Kerry proved in the third debate, that abortion is a biological imperative. Only the fittest fetuses are not aborted.

SNIKT!

And, if by decree of the opposite gender, you crace sexual intimacy with god or Charles Darwin, which sooner or later inevitably leads to the conception of New Life and New Civilizations, to boldly go where no man has gone before, you absolutely, positively must obey the Prime Directive. ooo-OOOOO-ooo-oo-o-oo-ooo-OOO…

Mary Cheney drinks Lipton Tea because It’s BRISK, baby!

You do realize you ended two statements about people’s sex lives with “come,” right?

I think this post gave me a conclusion.

How do you propose to stop them? First Amendment and all.

Because of course, people are not really divided over homosexuality and abortion, it’s just the politicians. And speaking of confused things that lead to nothing…

In Wednesday’s debate? I don’t think it was said once, let alone repeated. Do you mean said elsewhere? I don’t have a running tally.

In that case, New Iskander should not be allowed to pontificate about anything, because he has no experience being a Pontiff.

I think we’d be better off if we kept politicians out of everybody’s bedrooms, including their own.

The question wasn’t smug, and I don’t think he looked that flexible.

New Iskander, sexuality is not a choice. Who you have sex with is. I’m not sure how Kerry’s statements contradicted those facts. Bush either doesn’t know that it’s a biological thing or pretended not to so as to avoid saying something false and unpopular. How all that relates to your post is beyond me. I was kidding about hanging from the ceiling upside down, but this OP did give me a headache. It’s painfully stupid. On the plus side, I’m starting to think that soon your tenuous grip on reality will snap, and you’ll float into some other dimension like a kite in the breeze.

(H)omosex, (A)bort, ®etry, (F)ail?

(H)omosex, (A)bort, (R)etry, (F)ail?
(H)omosex, (A)bort, (R)etry, (F)ail?
(H)omosex, (A)bort, (R)etry, (F)ail?
(H)omosex, (A)bort, (R)etry, (F)ail?
(H)omosex, (A)bort, (R)etry, (F)ail?
(H)omosex, (A)bort, (R)etry, (F)ail?
(H)omosex, (A)bort, (R)etry, (F)ail?
(H)omosex, (A)bort, (R)etry, (F)ail?
(H)omosex, (A)bort, (R)etry, (F)ail?
(H)omosex, (A)bort, (R)etry, (F)ail?
(H)omosex, (A)bort, (R)etry, (F)ail?
(H)omosex, (A)bort, (R)etry, (F)ail?
(H)omosex, (A)bort, (R)etry, (F)ail?
(I seriously laughed out loud at that)

Or you may chose not to have sex at all. Remember Christian anachorets, many of whom were very passionate people with huge libido, yet sublimated completely? So clearly, there is always a choice. Obviously, sexuality is a function of higher order then breathing, eating and shitting. It may be a function of the highest order, as it animates people spiritually as well as physically. So the choice must always be present. We all know that Kerry was pretty successful playing a heterosexual field, but that is hardly an excuse for him spewing ignorant BS on other variations of sexual identity in humans, assigning who belongs where. It reminded me of an interview I read with a well known gay person, who was making fun how all those politician and media types he meets always start by professing admiration for gay lifestyle, but become extremely uncomfortable when it comes to discussing the intimate specifics of this lifestyle.

In pit vernacular, it pained me to see a successful Gigolo lecturing people on sexual matters other then hooking up with moody heiresses.

Why don’t these threads come with tinfoil?

Kerry is such a hypocrite

He says you can pick your nose and that you can pick your friends, then he turns around and says you CAN’T pick your friends’ noses!! Make up your mind, flip-flopper! Pro-choice or no! Heartland America sees through you!

I had a conclusion once. You should lie flat on your back and have someone watch for certain symbols.

Your post was worth the thread.

New Iskander:

At the risk of having Mockingbird take a driveby swipe at me, I’m still not getting you.

Are you operating from the assumption that sexuality, in general, is a choice? Not having sex, but to whom one is sexually attracted?

(It’s “anchorite” or “anchoress,” BTW.)

Is the issue that if you are straight you can do whatever you want, but if you are gay you have to be celibate and spend an entire life alone because it is icky or something?

Surely the point is clear.

Whether you are gay, straight, a teenager considering sex, or even a drug addict, there is only one answer to your predicament.

JUST SAY NO!

This sorts out everything, and is what God intended.

:rolleyes:

BTW, Homosex does not go with Abort – indeed if you limit yourself to Homosex, there is no chance for Abort. However I suppose you can Abort the Homosex (buggerus interruptus). :stuck_out_tongue:

Does anyone else tihnk New Isk is channelling Zippy the Pinhead?

“Homosex – abort! Homosex – abort! Homosex – abort!..”

Or perhaps he’s announcing the gender of a hooker’s child?

Ho! Mo sex? A bort!

Blah, I guess the only “choice” is to be an anchoret, anchoress, whatever it is and just not ever have sex, because … well, just because. Just for the record, a lot of those “fine upstanding paragons of virtue” were party animals and sex hounds before they “saw the light”, and often they abandoned their families too. The “mighty” St. Augustine, that “shining light of wisdom and virtue” did exactly that. Then these same paragons had the unmitigated gall to preach to other people and denounce them for doing things that were far less despicable. Can you say Hypocrisy? I don’t know what the big hangup is, and why we still can’t get people to just mind their own business.

Well, since I couldn’t make heads or tails of the OP, I had it translated into Greek hoping that might help.

This is the result:

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There. Now it’s all Greek to me.

Because, dear sir, your business is far more interesting than mine… :smiley: