Under Jainism, eating a drop of honey is as big of a sin as burning seven villages. So according to Jainists, most of us are bad bad people. Sins depend on the religion.
I would just like to point out that this is a fabulously inadequate response to **Sampiro’s **very serious challenge to the adequacy of your grounds for your Christian belief. Would you care to try again? The fact that you, personally, were born a Christian is not evidence of Christianity’s truth.
Yeah, I gotta agree with **S&I **up there…
If you changed the word Calvinist Theologian to “Hindu Scholar” and kept the rest even the fact that you were born into Christianity and think you’re right, you’ve just validated my Hinduism beliefs as being correct by that arguement.
The fact that my God says that you will think that your God tells you things and you listen to it, and won’t be converted to my God’s Religion doesn’t help make anyone’s case stronger. It just becomes a game of “Well, MY God’s Right.” “Well My God says you’d say that!” and so on. It’s the ol’ “I am rubber and you glue, so everything you say bounces off of me, and damn you to the eternal fires of hell” of all theological arguments (Okay not really, but I just wanted to use that line).
But it IS an amusing argument, I wonder how many other religions you could just switch in and out in there and still have that argument be valid to their believers?
It also has way more carbs. As long as you don’t eat the captured honey plundering villages not only gets no carbs but actually burns a lot of calories, thus it’s way better for you.
Being Jewish, I can completely ignore the NT. That leaves me with one line of prohibition. A line which can, without strain, be read as ‘Do not visit the temple prostitutes of other gods. I am the Lord.’
Some will object that I’m reaching, and subjecting that line to special status. Those people are ignorant. Every line, EVERY LINE, of the Torah gets subjected to the same scrutiny and has as many alternative explanations. Pick up a haggadah (the book for the Passover service) sometime. Among other things, arguments are made- based on two lines that there were not ten plagues, but forty, fifty, or two hundred and fifty.
Frankly, as a Jew, all the intermarriage worries me a lot more than homosexuality.
But that sequel they made…doesn’t exist. Some idiot sold the story rights and then the project got fourteen scriptwriters and was delayed for a reedit after the focus group screening and…we know how this turns out.
it’s not just “sin”, it is “abomination”, see Leviticus 18:22 “Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.”
I think the only things explicitly listed as “abomination” are idolatry, witchcraft and homosexuality. Not murder, and not adultery or rape which were all usually punishable by death. Not failing to keep the Shabbat. And no, not the everybody’s favorite “shalt not {f} sow thy vineyard with divers seeds” in Deut 22:9 and similar minor issues that make zero sense in our modern situation and for which no punishment of any kind is listed.
In short, God of the Bible REALLY cared/cares about this. Oh, and refusal to accept Biblical law (except when explicitly abrogated, as with kosher for non Jews) because “God is love” is called Antinomianism - Wikipedia
Doc, it takes quite a bit of strain. The exact wording is “And a male, you shall not lie with in the manner of a woman.” The context is a list of sexual prohibitions such as incest, adultery, bestialty and relations with a menstruating woman, none of which were ever thought by anyone to be limited to the “temple prostitution” situation. Granted, there’s one line in that section about human sacrifice to Moloch, but the fact is that the homosexuality line is definitely referring to sex, and it is logically a blanket prohibition like the other sexual acts described in the section.
No one, until the rise of the modern gay-rights movement, has ever interpreted Leviticus as meaning anything other than a complete prohibition of male-male homosexual sex acts. The recent attempts at re-interpretation by some folks who find themselves uncomfortable with a religion that clearly condemns activities which are the subject of a modern civil rights movement are very much a strain.
it’s not just “sin”, it is “abomination”, see Leviticus 18:22 “Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.”
I think the only things explicitly listed as “abomination” are idolatry, witchcraft and homosexuality. Not murder, and not adultery or rape which were all usually punishable by death.
Toevah haGoyim - generally given in English as 'Abomination.
But firstly you are understanding the word with all the accreted significance that 1500 years of bigotry have built onto the concept of same gender sexual expression.
Toevah haGoyim is the abomination of the Gentiles. It refers to the ritual and ceremonial purity that required of Jews, and which separated them from their neighbours. It does not mean something that you expect to crawl out of the Black Lagoon.
There are, moreover other things that are regarded a Toevah - shellfish, mixed fabrics in a garment, cutting one’s hair, eating pork… read Leviticus. These are all abominations, and there is no indication of one being worse than the other. So therefore, if you want to take the word abomination with its accreted significance, then most Christians are also committing abominations as bad as asnything gays might do. So it doesn’t do to cast stones when you too are abominating.
It seems that after Mother Night and the Sisters Of Sin left the Red Skull’s control, Mother Night changed her name to Sin.
So the real difference between Abomination and Sin is that Abomination is all mutated and gross and Sin is appealing with nice boobs.