Well, “kiss my ass till I bark like an aardvaark”, I dunno, suppose so…
My opinion, for what it is worth - I’m a Canadian who I suppose considers himself “liberal” on many issues - I support socialized medicine, for example.
From where I stand, I think that the majority of posters on this board are “left-leaning”. I think that brroadly speaking lefty canards get an easier ride here than righty canards. I find this mildly annoying at times.
Example: the notion, made only partly jokingly, that people who post on this board are smarter than average and that is why the board is left-leaning.
It’s also an air quality issue.
Too many smug alerts. 
See, I gave that a pass, because it’s only smug and self-righteous. Most left canards are innocent as personal opinions.
It’s the righty ones like ‘this is a Christian Nation’ that are actively dangerous.
I’m wavering here. Should he get an hour’s head start, or just till I can count to a hundred?
Who said that? Wasn’t me, my friend. It’s just that, given their near-total control of government over the past six years, they should have been a lot happier about life by the end of that time.
Yeah, I know. Sucks that blacks and women have equal rights now, doesn’t it?
Shall we see who’s blocked cloture more often - the Dems since 2000, or the GOP since the beginning of this year? During the 2003-06 period, the GOP took advantage of conference committee to largely rewrite legislation before sending it back for what was once a pro-forma approval. Now the GOP is filibustering the procedural motions by which bills already passed by the Senate go to conference.
Yeah, the Dems have blocked cloture on a few things, generally with popular support. The GOP has raised blocking cloture to the point of insanity.
Hey, up until the past couple of months, they still claimed to believe the war was going great, and the new Justices essentially gutted Roe in Carhart.
So where’s the smiles.
Unfair, even grossly unfair. John has never, to my knowledge, suggested any opposition to such equality.
Nor have I. Moreover, I do note that support and opposition to the original Civil Rights Act cut across both parties.
It probably would be a good idea to retract such an unsupportable statement.
Yes, the Southern Strategy is just a figment of the fevered imagination of the left:
Uh huh. And who were those local Democrats you speak of? Why, some of them were members of Congress with quite good liberal voting records.
I’m reminded of, to use just one example, Senator Fulbright - internationalist, anti-McCarthyite, supporter of the UN, hero to opponents of the Vietnam War. He was also, sadly, a rather vigorous racist and anti-Semite, though those views did mellow some in his later career.
So you are stickin’ to your story that racism is found equally in both parties?
Such was never my assertion. It would be far more accurate to state that in a society with a fair amount of racism, both the Republican Party and the Democratic Party have had to contend with this.
I find it rather pointless to say Republicans this, Democrats that when referring to pre-60s/70s politicians. There was a pretty major shift during that time. It wasn’t always the case where Democrat=liberal and Republican=conservative, and heck, the meaning of liberal/conservative has changed as well. We used to have conservative Democrats, but then conservative views got pretty much pushed out of the party platform, and then you also had (gasp!) liberal Republicans, and their moderate to liberal views were pretty much pushed out of the party platform as well.
We have to stay in the modern context, I think, for these arguments to make any sense.
Quite a jump from the original statement that garnered objection:
How did you get from that to “racism is found equally in both parties?”
Oh, I agree. But even then it doesn’t get much clearer, does it?
Suffolk County, Massachusetts went overwhelmingly for both McGovern and Carter, but that didn’t prevent massive riots opposing busing in 1974.
Lots of other examples I could quote along those lines, right up to today. And the Republican Party’s struggle with certain nativist elements and the Democratic Party’s experiences with racist demagogues like Al Sharpton show that we’re hardly out of the woods here.
Y’know, I really expected the second paragraph to read something like “that’s quite the pony you’re hoping for,” or something along those lines. Not “the idea that you’d be happy if you got the pony is a crock.”
I guess liberals and conservatives really do live in different worlds.
And the GOP has produced just one since I’ve been old enough to pay attention. What of it?
When I care how you characterize me, I’ll be sure to send you a postcard.
Since I saw my website being referenced, I decided to see what was going on here. I won’t participate in this discussion (but look at where I stand on the graph and you’ll see I’m the typical knee-jerk liberal SDMB member).
Some folks were complaining the graph wasn’t labelled properly, so I decided to make a small addition.
www.1728.com/SD.htm
I hope it clears things up for you. I did not want to be remiss in my graph-desigining responsibilities.
I don’t know - you put the legend smack in Commie territory. Didn’t that block any points? Why not place it entirely above or below the graph. Just a suggestion.
Nah. Neither of our two commies replied to the thread.
Standard deviants. Not enough standard deviants, its like not enough cowbell.