But Turk, on the other hand, is supposed to be hotness personified (Carla: “You’re cute but you’re very aware of it”).
Are we seeing the same guy here woman? All I can see is a mole and a smile that I expect to make his head hinge open at any moment.
I just got done watching season 1 of The Wire and couldn’t help notice how much Dominic West looks like Jean-Claude Van Damme.
Anyone can be knee deep in random pussy if they are willing to smile and speak softly.
Charm has little to do with looks.
Similarly, on the same show, Patrick Dempsey. He’s not an attractive man, yet they all call him “McDreamy”? Wtf? I mean I like Patrick Dempsey–I have to, he’s a fellow geek and a juggler*–but the man isn’t someone to turn heads.
*he came in 2nd place in the Juniors competition at the International Jugglers’ Association festival in 1982 and that’s only because the guy who came in first was Anthony Gatto, arguably the best juggler in the world and possibly one of the best of all time.
Yes! Also in Best in Show, where she was the object of desire of most guys she encountered. Though that’s possibly for how easy she was, not how hot she was.
No she didn’t. Davis was never a beauty (when Goldwyn watched her screen test he screamed “Who did this to me?” and her nickname around the studio was “little brown wren”). And she always claimed that she was never interested in being a beauty. She was interested in doing good work and she had the talent to make you believe that she was beautiful.
I never thought Sam Malone (Ted Danson) on “Cheers” was all THAT hot. Though I guess if he came on to me in the bar, I might not be able to say no…he was fairly charming.
I remember an episode of Ally McBeal where the firm was defending a woman accused of sexual harassment. This being AMcB, the show was not constrained by anything resembling reality. She was the head of company, and had all the guys who worked for her lusting after her in a pheremone-clouded stupor of lust. She was described as being like a queen bee; literally irrestible.
The character was played by Christine Lahti. Now, she is not someone I would necessarily describe as drool-worthy. But she played it to the hilt, wrapping guys around her little finger, and enjoying every minute of it. She made it work.
Everytime I see her portrayed as this great object of desire, I am completely mystified. I do not want.
Exactly who I thought of when I read the thread title.
I have to disagree on James Spader. I developed a thing for him when he did Stargate and White Castle. Yum-O! He’s gotten fat, but hell so have I. His character on Boston Legal is hot to me. It’s the confidence.
Shatner - Hot
Spader - Hot
(Together on BL - double hot! OK, not so much for Shatner now 
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Sarah Jessica Parker - So Not Hot. Her hands are C-R-E-E-P-Y.
Although I didn’t say it directly, that was kind of my point. I meant to expand on the my idea that the casting director might have known what he/she was doing by casting an actor whose onscreen charm would (and did) become more apparent over time, beyond any idea of classic good looks called for or implied by an actors romantic successes.
What I originally thought of when I saw the thread title was Joan Cusack in Addam’s Family Values. Not someone who I normally consider hot.
But she is a heck of an actress. She actually played hot.
Another thing to consider is the director Spike Jonze was doing some subversive role reversal with Diaz and Keener. Conventional casting at the time would’ve dictated that Keener play Cusack’s frumpy wife and Diaz the “hot” office girl. Instead, Jonze threw the audience’s expectations for a loop by switching the actresses’ roles.
(Incidentally, I find Keener attractive regardless but YMMV. Also, a dowdy-looking Cameron Diaz still looks like Cameron Diaz–a point I thought was inadvertantly made in the movie after her character cleans herself up.)
I’ll throw in Evangeline Lilly, Kate from Lost. She’s not bad looking by any means, but of the female primary characters in the cast, I’d place her second-to-last (ahead of only Cynthia Watros) in attractiveness (compensating for Emilie de Ravin’s pregnancy). Yet she easily gets the most romantic attention of any of the females. OK, Sun is a married woman who is (as far as most of the characters know) devoted to her husband. And Ana-Lucia was an abrasive super-bitch. But how is it that Claire and Shannon were only getting one guy apiece lusting after them (and Charlie was pretty goofy-looking) while Kate has the alpha male wanna-bes (monk-like Locke excepted) fighting over her?
I think Kate from Lost is easily the most smokin’ hot of the women on the island. By a long way.
It’s the dirt. I’m serious!
I saw Evangeline Lilly on Conan a few months ago and she didn’t clean up well. In fact, she looked ten times hotter every week on Lost covered in dirt and sweat and grime. But being clean and in a dress and wearing makeup, she does nothing for me.
You can also see effect at work on Survivor. Compare the island hotties to how they look on the reunion show. None of them would get a second look at the reunion, but all of them would make a deserted island more fun.
Yeah.
Goldblum’s face is weird looking - not aggressively ugly, but certainly unusual - but he’s got a great voice, charm, confidence to burn, and on top of all that, he’s tall. Being tall is consistently ranked by women as a desirable physical quality in a man, so combined with all that, he definitely has strong sex appeal. I’ve only ever heard positive things about him from women.
James Spader is also handsome, but odd, looking. In movies like Crash and Sex, Lies and Videotape, he projected this strange, super-calm confidence, a very soft-spoken but powerful persona. I haven’t seen Boston Legal so I can’t comment on that.
I’m gonna go out on a limb here and agree that she is not exactly super hot. It’s something about her cheeks I think.
In Wolf (with Jack Nicholson and Michelle Pfeiffer) Spader gets some makeup to assist in what seems to me to be the ideal role for his earlier persona. If he could keep the yellow eyes full-time I doubt they’d ever cast him in anything but werewolf parts.
As it stands, he’s the backbone of Boston Legal with Shatner doing an almost Gabby Hayes type of sidekick. The chemistry between the two of them is what keeps the show afloat. That and some really clever writing!
Oh, my word, yes. Hot does not describe her in that movie. I rather suspect that, at some point, Gomez sat his brother down and said, “You’re letting this woman manipulate you in every way–and I TOTALLY see why.”
