Hotel California Redux - Another 1979-like Right Wing Shift?

Odd that a “Canadian” that is rabid about politics would misremember Canadian election results from 2 years ago.

Indeed. In the 2021 election, the federal Liberals gained 5 seats

And no, the federal Liberals did not win the popular vote. We have a number of federal parties. The last time a federal government in Canada won the popular vote was (checks notes) the 1984 Mulroney government. Almost 40 years ago.

Edit: To find the next popular vote win, one has to go back to 1958 and John Diefenbaker

So this “oh oh, Trudeau did not win the popular vote” really does not hold much water .

Even better, that was a reply to a cite that was obviously not read. Natch.

What “progressive leader” in the Netherlands are you talking about? Prime Minister Mark Rutte, who recently announced his retirement after the collapse of his latest coalition government, is a longstanding leader of the VVD, a conservative-liberal center-right party that has led governing coalitions for the past decade-plus.

The VVD’s current coalition partners are other centrist to center-right parties, including the socially conservative Christian Union party. Moreover, AFAICT VVD is projected to lead the polls again in the next Dutch elections. So I don’t see by what tortured logic you managed to twist Rutte’s ouster into any kind of alleged rejection of “progressivism” on the part of the Netherlands.

Similarly, New Zealand did not in any way “force” Labour PM Jacinda Ardern (who is an actual progressive) to resign earlier this year; at the time of her spontaneous and voluntary resignation, she was still widely popular and projected to win the next election.

Her Labour successors lost widely to their more right-wing National Party rivals in the recent elections, but that’s a very far cry from your claim of a “forced” resignation by Ardern.

As Exapno_Mapcase pointed out, that rather narrow two-year sample window seems rather… arbitrary. Even so, yeah, you missed a few.

You also seem to have missed Estonia’s liberal Reform Party victory at the polls this past March.

What we do seem to be seeing worldwide is a doubling-down on the part of authoritarian-conservative movements, and a renewed tendency on their part to blame intractable global problems (climate change, COVID-19, refugee issues) on liberals. A lot of voters in troubled times are reassured and inspired by exhortations to “just throw out those cosmopolitan egghead elitists and put us regular folks in charge, and we’ll return you to the good old days”, but that says more about their sentimental delusions than their realistic judgement.

Maybe it’s a palindrome. You know, like Notlob,

And while we’re nitpicking, the OP has misspelled “redux” (Latin for “returned, restored”) in the thread title.

Stranger

If you post something with leading spaces representing indentation, the formatting system Discourse uses (Markdown) interprets that as if you are posting computer code. Which results in a mono-spaced font and no word-wrapping within paragraphs. The non word-wrapping then results in silly-long lines and the left-right scrollbar at the bottom of each block of indented text.

The cure is simple: don’t try to use leading spaces to represent indentation.

Thanks for the information. Too bad the OP will never see it; given that they’re only spamming the board with the same bullshit they’re spamming elsewhere.

Yeah. My point was two-fold.

  1. Sometimes regular posters try to do indentation by spaces and are mystified by what happens. If somebody reads this they may avoid making that mistake in the future.

  2. When we see an OP containing that format, we can safely assume it was C&Ped from somewhere. Which is useful context to have when interpreting the OP’s remarks, intent, and sincerity.

He is a refugee from the dying right wing wasteland of City-Data.com

I’m surprised (and disappointed) that moderation hasn’t shut down the obvious zero-value drive-by pamphleteering spam.

They did…and then moved it here to the pit where people enjoy kicking dead horses.

I had not known that that site had degraded into a RW wasteland.

We’re mostly talking to each other now. We do that a lot. :wink:

Can I be the front end of the dead horse?

Hey, just wanted to make sure you got to see this good news:

It’s not exactly a left-wing government, except relative to what’s there currently. It’s a major defeat for one of the most conservative/authoritarian governments in Europe, and a bright spot for anyone who opposes authoritarian conservatism. Let’s hope other countries are taking note.

Jackmannii pointed that out in post #9.

Jackmannii did post #9 but he didn’t mention Poland and that was before Sam’s claim in #11. I talked about the Polish election, but that was in post #41.

Anyway, here’s another election for future misattribution.

…saucywench was replying to Kimstu…

Thank you Atamasama! That’s what I get for being a smart ass.