Oh Rly?
So what is it you were saying about the Republicans fighting this again?
Oh Rly?
So what is it you were saying about the Republicans fighting this again?
Yeah, and the Democrats could have wrote a bill that ignored Republican concerns, and just offer liberal solutions. But they chose to make a bi-partisan effort, which the Republicans chose to sink. I say the Dems should go back and create a straight liberal bill and say FU to the Republicans.
Suppose the Chinese (concerned about their $1 trillion in US cash) decide that the dollar will collapse. So they start dumping US bonds and stocks-would they be so foolish to do this? The collapse of the US dollar would bite them in the ass-and there would be nobody to buy their products.
Would the Chinese be so foolish?
I thank you for saying that. I wanted to but couldn’t overcome my shock at the brassballedness of saying its the dems fault.
No.
That was easy.
I would, but by the look of things I doubt I will be able to afford a beer soon (my income is US-based).
I suggest that you start buying clothes in smaller sizes and punching extra holes in your belts.
Shayna if I wasn’t married I’d ask to buy you a drink. 
Shayna, the girl with kaleidoscope cites. 
On one hand, this guy thinks we’re well on our way to another Great Depression.
On the other hand, many people have been noting that today’s drop, as a percentage, isn’t nearly as high as crises past, pointing at that as proof that all the “crisis” hysteria of the past week were smoke and mirrors. (They may be right, but I find this “proof” incredibly poor.)
Enh, I’m not impressed. That cite shows Bush showing support for some programs that help minorities and poor people to own homes. There’s nothing sinister about that.
On the other hand, various other cites show Bush specifically targeting sub-prime lending practices. Shayna’s cite doesn’t prove that Bush favored adjustable mortgage rates or anything like that. No matter how we try to make it stick, I think Bush is blameless on this one.
The ones who remember 1933?
The ones not ensconced at the (notably conservative) Universities of Chicago and Stanford? (Who together seem to comprise about 1/4 of the economists on your little list. Hmm.)
Both parties share responsibility. Your party isn’t innocent, neither is the other party. Blaming one or the other for the current problems is pure and simply bias.
I have a solution,
Evey member of Congress should stay at a Holiday Express for a night.
Conservative list hmm interesting. I thought perhaps they where economists, and not people trying to get elected to an office.
Where was the “deal” that was reached yesterday? Two-thirds of the GOP voting against AND 40% of the DEMS voting against tells me it was a lousy bill.
How did either leader claim to have the pulse of their respective caucus with that much dissent?
Nonsense. You needn’t look any further than the White House website to see him tout some of the initiatives that have led to this crisis. Here’s one interesting part:
This last initiative happened in Feb 2004. From here.
So it was Bush, among others, that advocated the practices that led to these mortgages being issued. Not to mention that blaming Fannie and Freddie for buying mortgage-backed securities that have blown up seems to be somewhat misguided considering they didn’t lend the money to under-qualified people in the first place. At best, they are only partially responsible.
His budgets have been astronomical. These wars will cost trillions of dollars. How can you argue he has shown any sort of fiscal discipline in light of the dramatic increase in spending and the deficit?
You really are not aware of the reputation of the University of Chicago?
So your list is basically a compendium of economists who are dyed-in-the-wool advocates of laissez faire policies.
I.e., precisely the sort of deregulation advocates who got us into this latrine in the first place.
Don’t think so, when you consider all the (also underhanded) work Bush did to make Republicans and Democrats pass those Iraq, FISA, and other resolutions then the blame for the poor piss job made to reign on this early (with a Republican controlled house and Senate) has to be put mostly on Republican hands.
“The buck stops here!” - Harry S. Truman.
I’m not so sure. There’s been an increase in pro-protectionist rhetoric, from both Democrats and Republicans. I don’t think Congress and the President would be stupid enough to go to an extreme as Smoot-Hawley, but they may be very tempted to pass some protectionist measures. I hope they don’t.
Are all economists who disagree with this bill, trying to cause a depression? I’ve never heard of all those schools being conservative hideaways.