How accepting/tolerant is the Dope?

I really do see things very different from you and **Ellis Dee ** then. That brief mention did not even seem off topic from his discourse on “Cheese”. It actually fit the thread and the discussion at hand. I guess this is a good case of YMMV.

On the other hand, I have complained about a specific poster who has made the same stupid and off-topic joke in several Tolkien threads I was participating in. So, I fully recognize that while EC’s stuff does not bother me, I have my own sore spots.

I also get intolerant of stupid jokes/WAGS in GQ when the question has factual answers but has not yet had a chance for knowledgeable posters to answer it yet. Have some courtesy people, wait a few hours or at least a dozen posts for your “witticisms” please.

Jim

Look, I agree with you that writing about my bondage posts is a bit of a hijack, but I cannot let bullshit like this stand. It WASN’T fucking irrelevant. The topic was “If I was a TV/film director, here’s what I’d do different.” And I explained the theory of cheese, which is a generally adaptable theory usable by anyone for any purpose, in any kind of genre. I linked to the review because it explains this general theory in more detail. The Buck Rogers show was relevant because it violated almost every principle of the Theory of Cheese, and I argued how it did.

Jeebus, don’t fucking lie like that, it’s ANNOYING.

Well, this is bullshit too, but at least it’s not readily detectable as a deliberate lie. Most of my posts have nothing to do with bondage. You have the power to determine that, if you are so inclined. Have at.

Well, thank goodness for small favors.

You could have made the same exacting point without linking to your bondage website, but GOD FUCKING FORBID you don’t include it every fucking place you can. Not everyone who disagrees with you is a liar, and you can go fuck yourself for calling me one – and feel free to throw in a rape fantasy if that’s what makes the experience enjoyable for you.

Jesus, martyr much?

Look EC, maybe your crusade against the “eggshellers” would go a little better if you fucking listened to some of the people that are sick of your bondage asides appearing everywhere.

We get it, you love the bondage, we don’t care. It is not relevant in the cited discussion and it’s rarely relevant any other time you bring it up.

We don’t want a board where people feel they need to walk on eggshells, we just want a board where you stop talking about bondage so damn much.

And while I’m good and riled up, a hearty fuck you to Zoe, who continually proves that people should be weary of those that wave the “feminist” label.

Marvelous perfection. A winner is you.

Evil Captor, I think you are missing the point here that people are simply not equating talk about a specific type of sexual kink about the mention that someone is gay. The two are not the same. Even when you point this out…

…you are missing the point. Was it the SAME person over and over? Were these threads ON THAT TOPIC, so that anyone who went into them would know what type of stuff they were about to read? Or did they hijack an unrelated thread to talk about sex practices?

In general, equating love of bondage with homosexuality is just wrong. Imagine this scenario: Let’s say someone is walking down the street, and bumps into his friend, Bob. Bob is with another person. Bob says, “Hey, I’d like you to meet my boyfriend.” What do you think the reaction would be?

Now compare this to the same scenario, but this time, Bob says “Hey, I’d like you to meet my bondage partner.” Now, what do you think the reaction would be?

The two are not the same thing.

The funny thing about labels is that since I’m a feminist, I don’t associate her views with feminism but with kneejerkism.

Well that’s why it’s in quotes. Because her flavor of feminism is clearly the “Can’t you see the male patriarchy is oppressing us and forcing us to dress pretty and act submissive while they get all the good movie parts and then they make us have the babies and we have to quit our jobs because the men say so and…” ad nauseum.

I refuse to believe that people truly interested in equal rights for the sexes think like that.

And this is why you’re an asshole.

Look, your desperate attempts to paint me as some sort of a prude aside, I’m all in favor of sexual liberation. Which means that if someone likes bondage, that’s okay. And if someone doesn’t like bondage, that’s okay too. Not everyone wants to hear about your kinks. That sort of discussion makes them uncomfortable. And while their discomfort doesn’t give them the right to prevent you from talking about your kink under any circumstance, your interest in bondage doesn’t give you the right to talk about it under every circumstance. The first rule of being a socially conscious pervert is learning to respect other people’s boundaries. When you inject your particular fetish into threads that are not about sex, you’re forcibly including people in your sex life against their will, and that’s simply not cool.

Now, this does not mean that you can’t ever, under any circumstance, talk about bondage. The Flanders out there have to give a little, too, and in the context of the SDMB, that means that they’ll have to accept that there will be threads about various posters sexual proclivities. But they should have a reasonable expectation that they can open a thread that’s not about sex, and not have to read all about your libido. This is supposed to be a general interest board, not a sex board. People who don’t want to read the gory details of other people’s sex lives are as welcome here as anyone else.

The problem people have with you, EC, isn’t that you’re into bondage. Hell, I think it’s great that you enjoy it and are comfortable talking about it. With your knowledge and passion on the subject, you could be a great advocate for it. But shoving it into people’s faces wether they’re interested or not isn’t being a good advocate, it’s being an evangelist. And evangelists piss people off. If you really can’t figure out the difference, maybe it would be a better idea not to talk about it at all, because speaking as a sexual deviant myself, the way you currently carry on is making us all look bad.

Something about you we don’t know, Miller?

But, seriously…great post!

I’ve been here for six or seven years or whatever the hell it is, and posted 14,000 posts or 140,000 or a million or something - I don’t keep close track - and as God is my witness, I never remembered you were associated with bondage and never thought anything about your username. In all these years it’s just never registered with me enough for me to give so much as a tiny shit.

Screen names are almost all meaningless; who pays attention to them? Why does this sort of thing rile people up?

Maybe this place is less tolerant than I thought.

You know, someone else’s bondage experiences relayed in person, perhaps with props, or even other cast members, might be interesting, or not.

Off hand mentions of the existence of past bondage experiences in the middle of discussions not specifically about bondage, or at least the social ramifications of bondage are mildly boring the first time. The rate at which the characteristic of boreingness increases with each iteration is extraordinary.

Get a life.

Tris

All this talk of me posting constantly about bondage … what a joke. I did a search, I have participated in 21 threads in the past week, and, other than this thread, in only three of them is there any mention of bondage by me. Two of those are about the Flash Gordon TV series, which had a bondage scene in it. (Maybe you guys should work on getting the writers banned.)

And yet, here we have the Usual Suspects circling the wagons, whipping out their Springfields and crying, “Help! Help! Call out the cavalry! Evil Captor’s got us surrounded! He’s written about bondage in three entire threads on this board! O, woe is us! Where can we ever go to read something not about bondage?”

Sad, really.

I’m through here. I just see a lot more piling on by the Usual Suspects, replacing the truth with their highly selective and distorted perceptions, perpetuating the Big Lie through repetition. Anybody who wants to see the truth has access to the same Search feature I do.

Well, that was predictable.

What the fuck ever. You were the one who came in here moaning about how poorly people treat you. Why don’t you take that cross of yours, break it down for wood, build a bridge, and get over it?

How many other people do you think have mentioned bondage even once in the last week? I’m guessing the number is close to zero.

But you know the old saying, don’t let the door hit your ass on the way out. Although you’d probably enjoy that.

You’d have a lot more credibility if you hadn’t brought it up into this unrelated thread. If this had been a pitting of you and your love of bondage, you might have a leg to stand on.

I haven’t paid all that much attention to you and the bondage thing, but so far it seems to be mainly about you being upset that people don’t understand or care. Several other posters have mentioned, in the past, being into BDSM and non-vanilla things, but no one seems to associate it with them because they post on other topics as well.

Here’s a question: what do you think happens when people do what the OP claims the Dope does IRL?

I ask because I came across a conservative blog that claims this has happened with transgender studies, and applies those actions to manmade global warming skepticism. I’m torn about this; I certainly want to see bad science get tossed out, but I also hate giving the opposition such ready ammunition.

I just… I just feel quite strongly that this particular fact should be given special attention. May we all read that quote again?

And bow our heads in a moment of non-denominational gratitude for just how very right msmith537 is.

:stuck_out_tongue:

I may vehemently disagree with the Red Staters but the SDMB would be a much less interesting place if we were that homogenous.

Cartooniverse

To the best of my recollection, I’ve never taken issue with you before and only mentioned it because I thought that perhaps you were confusing intolerance of bondage in general with intolerance of your obsession with bondage. Obviously, you don’t get the difference, so I won’t bring it up again. I’m sorry I’ve offended you.