How bad is jargon in your industry?

I subscribe to a number of nursing journals with online content, and got this gem in my inbox today. I’m pretty used to medical jargon, but this adds a whole new layer of academicese to the game

(snipped content for copyright reasons, but I assure you the snipped bits are just as bad.)

Translation: People talk shit about old folks, so nurses aren’t nice to them. :smack:

I have to do CDRs today on outstanding INV lines that failed to get closed properly when the AVR guys completed their work and referred the files to RST or closed them. The MATs are closed, so it’s just a matter of closing these lines and we’re golden.

After I’ve done that I’ve got to go back to registering eLGs but I need to check if we’re still required to send AWD letters to ERs or whether we’re sending Conf letters to EEs only. I think I’ve got a handful of ADTs and a few Sham Contractings, so I’ll need to see if we’re referring them straight to the states or not.

I’m just glad I don’t have to do State IRs any more. NIR, DOJ and SWS were doing my fucking head in.

Does that answer your question?

[ETA]: Nexus is not FUBAR today, but DEEWR have to do their updates tonight so there’s every possibility I’ll come in tomorrow and not a single thing will be working.

Beautiful.

And I’m suddenly craving some Alphabet Soup. :smiley:

Wouldn’t it be a better world if anyone who claimed to use a Foucauldian approach had to read Foucault first?

(I just finished a master’s in rhetoric. The man is often quoted and little read, or else he wouldn’t be so quoted - he has some great ideas, obviously, but they are so couched in abstruseness as to be nearly indecipherable.)

The best part is that I could explain all the acronyms, and it still wouldn’t make any sense to anyone outside the department. People who know me have learned to just sit and nod until the alphabet soup spew stops and go “Oh, okay then. That’s… bad?” :smiley:

The short answer is I work in a government department that’s related to industrial relations, registering complaints on behalf of people who feel their workplace rights have been violated (Wages and conditions, discrimination, general protections, things like that). So there’s not only legislation jargon being tossed around, there’s system acronyms and all sorts of other jargon being spouted all over the place.

Well, it would likely lead to clearer writing, so I’m voting yes.

My ex has a PhD in Performance Studies. Loves (and yes, has read) Foucault. This thing reads like his early (read: bad) dissertation draft.

Sierra Indigo, I could not have begun to guess your line of work. That’s some effective jargon at work! (You know, for a certain exclusionary definition of “effective”.)

Off the top of my head, these are some of the phrases, words, abbreviations, and acronyms that have non-obvious meanings…

… on Wikipedia: barnstar, nom, toolserver, rollbacker, checkuser, oversight, bureaucrat, steward, mainspace, arbcom, portal, gnome, Huggle, Twinkle, FA, FAC, FAR, GA, GAN, GAR, RfA, RfB, RfC, RfCU, BAG, DYK, ITN, PR, SPA, NPOV, 3RR, AGF, MOS, RS, AWB

… in theater: fly galley, arbor, batten, fresnel, Source Four, electric, Edison connector, twofer, traveller, teaser, cyc, scrim, pit, flat, scab, drop, tech, Equity, practical, paints, carps, sight line, Genie, green room, hang tape, pick point, barn door, top hat, iris, mover, strike, PAR, ETC, DMX, XLR, IATSE, LX, ME, LD, PA, ASM

… at Walt Disney World: Protein spill, honey bucket, friends with [name], Munk height, Disney height, Disney look, Disney point, bid, spare, color code, step-off, step-down, walk time, cast member, character base, grouper, breaker, PC, CP, ER, 101, MOUCP

Funny too…FWIR about reading Foucault, his theory of discourse potentially enshrines jargon. It could be an incredibly powerful force in discourse - which is about communicating; what you communicate (or don’t); how you do it; whom you communicate to; and whom you leave out.

The discourse community - which is key to how people in a discipline or profession see it, and see themselves - could conceivably depend almost entirely on the careful use (and even deliberate misuse) of jargon.

I’m in Education. I win.

I’m in the computer design business. Not only do we have lots of jargon, but we push our jargon on you poor saps in the real world.

Bwahahah - and we’ve got plenty more when you get used to the ones you think you know.

I used to work for a Navy training command. Prior to that, I’d had a job working for a hospital. Medicine and the military take the cake when it comes to jargon, followed closely by the rest of government.

I told my husband we should try playing Scrabble using only Navy jargon (he was in the Navy at the time). I’m not sure how often we would have been able to come up with something for the Qs (even without the U), but Js and Zs would have been easy to use.

By “computer design”, are you talking about hardware, software, or what exactly? I’m just curious because I just haven’t thought of that as a job description before. Obviously all the components have to be designed individually but the final product is usually such a hodgepodge that there are virtually infinite iterations possible based on user preferences… well, unless you work for Apple.

I had never in my life imagined that medical terminology and literary criticism could mate.

And the horrible thing is, once you penetrate the shells of sesquipedalian obfuscation, the core ideas of these things are often quite brilliant. But somehow that brilliance becomes obscured.

I know, right? I mean, the thesis of the quote in the OP - that people stereotype [the elderly], include those stereotypes in medical literature, and that affects patient care unless the nurse is careful to understand his/her biases and work to avoid them, treating the patient as an *individual - is not a bad one. It absolutely happens, and is something our teachers emphasize and warn us about. But it’s nearly hidden by the damn jargon! I’m a pretty smart person with an erudite vocabulary myself, and it took me a good 10 minutes to be sure I understood what I was reading.

*:wink:

Silenius,
In your daily detailed rubric-supported lesson plan preparation, have you utilized mastery-focused strategies in order to drive mission-critical teaching to support the opportunity to seize performance-based higher-order thinking, encouraging the cultivation of child-centered life-long learning?

HOGAN users had to access AFS reports via WSF2 because the LPAR housing AXCIS was fenced due to faulty DASD on the primary CPF.

It seems like IBM patented acronyms…

You’ve heard of Rube Goldberg machines? This is Rube Goldberg language - abstractions pushing on concepts which roll analogies down paradigms.

It used to be that anyone who considered themselves an educated person would include some reasonable amount of education in music as part of that. This of course is long gone, so the vast majority of conventional, elementary music terms are going to fly over most people’s heads.

OP: never confuse industrial jargon with academic BS. Two very different phenomenon.

Not necessarily jargon, but…

Working in a hospital, especially with residents that come from many, many foreign countries, some of the abbreviations and outright semi-medical word constructions that appear on orders can get confounding, if not simply amusing.

I remember one chest x-ray that was ordered as a follow-up to an “abnormal cardio fracture.” (You mean you can see a broken heart? He meant cardio fraction.)

Another was for a bone scan for osteopenis. I believe that that “s” was supposed to be an “a” since I didn’t see a calcified tallywhacker.