If there is the slightest possibility of the Democrats winning the next election and getting rid of Trump, what steps would have to be taken? All responses are welcome…but I will keep in mind something my pappy once told me-“That guy sitting across from you at the table might be the friendliest person you ever set eyes on, but never forget that when he gives you some “friendly advice” he is at that table for the same reason you are.”
Don’t rip yourselves apart in a civil war like 2016. The nominee might not pass a 100 question purity test and that’s ok.
No one has a perfect life, just like no one has the perfect spouse or perfect job or perfect house. We’re electing a president, not a God.
So glad Bernie, part II is a flop of a sequel so farm
Move to impeach Trump on war crimes in Yemen.
:rolleyes:
Huh?? Most Americans are going to think Yemen is a weird dish at their local Chinese takeout.
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[li]Try to reduce the visibility of AOC, Omar, Tlaib - ‘the Squad’ - as much as possible. They are deeply unpopular. Pelosi is more mainstream, let her be the leader.[/li][li]Run on a platform of “return to the normal good old days of Obama” - with “respectability, normalcy and dignity” being emphasized over and over again.[/li][li]Stop pushing the “privilege” issue. It is inherently divisive. There is no way you can say “X has privilege, Y does not” without it starting an X vs. Y resentment. The very nature of that sort of talk serves to divide and aggravate.[/li][/ul]
See the advice given in the OP.
Another one would be: Do not count your chickens before they are hatched. In November 2016, there were people going around with T-shirts reading: “Spoiler Alert: Clinton Wins.” That was hardly a message that encouraged people to vote for Hillary.
- Here’s Nate Silver on your link:
*If everyone loved Obama so damn much, why did they turn around and elect pretty much his exact opposite to follow him?
*How do you suggest we deal with institutionalized racism and patriarchy if we don’t talk about them? Or do we just say that white supremacy and sexism are going to be around forever because admitting they exist might cause us to lose a particular election? Does that seem like a good long term recipe for getting female and minority votes?
Nominate Joe Biden right now. Right. fucking. now. Screw the debates. Forget the DNC convention bullshit. Just throw all the support behind JB. Joe may not be the democrat we want, but he’s the democrat we need right now. Sorry, Liz. Sorry, Pete. It was never going to be you, Kamala. Or you, Bernie. You’ll all be getting a call for senior cabinet positions. Thanks for coming out and please don’t forget to validate your parking stubs.
You are going to have to shut the progressives up.
Anyone who voted for Trump last time is going to vote for him again. The SDMB and the other yellow dog Democrats will vote for anyone with a D after their name. Therefore you have to get the moderates.
Progressive ideas like the Green New Deal and free health care for illegal immigrants and reparations and all the other things that the yellow dog Dems love are unpopular with moderates. Y’all can tell each other as much as you like that they are winning issues. Feel free - and get ready for another four years of Trump. Drop the stuff about impeachment - that makes you look petty and hypocritical.
And find somebody with charisma. None of the current crop has anything that resembles charisma. Buttigieg is the only one with even a tinge, and he has never run a national campaign yet, and it remains to be seen if he can maintain it over the next year and a half, even if he gets the nom, which he won’t. Maybe he can run for VP, but that won’t help.
Or, repeat over and over “Why should we listen to anyone but each other because WE’RE RIGHT DAMMIT AND EVERYONE ELSE IS WRONG WRONG WRONG!” and be prepared to spend the next four years outside the Oval Office looking in.
Regards,
Shodan
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[li]Try to reduce the visibility of AOC, Omar, Tlaib - ‘the Squad’ - as much as possible. They are deeply unpopular. ][/li][/QUOTE]
The are deeply unpopular… among “likely general-election voters who are white and have two years or less of college education”
In other words, people that go to Trump rallies.
Hillary lost because she lost the northern Midwest. So a candidate who does well there.
Mobilize the black vote, female vote, millennial vote and try to reach out to the small number of swing voters who are whites without college. Discourage the green party from running in swing states.
How to do that? I don’t know.
Because nominating a neo-liberal centrist worked out so gloriously well in 2016?
First of all, how about some discussion or debate within the group of Democratic candidates about the issues. We currently have them mostly agreeing to the shift to the left agenda items. Argue and provide a choice among the candidates.
Second, abandon for now the hope that impeachment will save the day. It is like hoping that the ball game gets rained out or the other team doesn’t show up so you win by default. Ain’t going to happen so cut it out.
Abandon the “free candy” for everyone that cannot be paid for. Improvements in health care, income inequality, etc. are more nuanced than that. Who is going to be the grown up in the room who tells us that? And what it might cost.
And I am sorry, QuickSilver, Joe Biden is too old, too inside-the-beltway, too entrenched in the old school DC to win. And I have not seen anything from him that gives the impression that his heart is even in this. You can’t fake the fire in the belly needed to win, and he does not want to. He is going through the motions. As inspiring and inevitable as Hillary was.
Joe is not in this to win and lead the party. This is his last hurrah and he is only doing this because he is expected to. It shows.
I guess if we keep rerunning the 2016 election, we’ve got to win it sooner or later, right?
To answer the OP’s question:
Get as many people you know to register to vote. Ask them if they’re registered, if not tell them how. Follow up. Make sure they go and vote on Election Day 2020. Offer rides, make phone calls.
Candidates should run on and debate the issues that affect all Americans today: climate, healthcare, wages, the issues that the GOP are weak on.
Stop paying as much attention to Trump and having him dominate the news. Unfollow, stop commenting, don’t retweet, lets see if we can lower his time in the media.
After the Primary, vote for whoever wins the nomination, no matter who it is.
Your family must have interesting Thanksgiving dinners.
The Democrats need to reach out to every group (deplorables excepted). For the poor: you’ll get back on your feet. For the working classes: you’ll get ahead. For the middle classes: you’ll have an honorable country. For the business classes: you’ll have stability. For whites: you’re free and safe when everyone is free and safe. For minorities: you’ll be free and safe. For Christians: you’ll have a leader who knows the Beatitudes*. For other religions: you’ll have a country that respects you.
The Democrats need to be seen reaching out to every group (deplorables excepted). Ignore Republican and Russian trolls. Stay on message. When reporters ask about trolling-de-jour, answer with what you’ll do to help Average Joe.
Democrats need a 50-state, 3000-county organization. Organize locally, everywhere. Register voters. Follow up with newly registered voters. Follow up with long-time voters. Follow-up with everyone again.
*Seriously, any Democrat who debates Trump should have the Beatitudes memorized and recite any of them at any appropriate moment.
Trump being impeached may make low information voters and swing voters less likely to support him.