To answer the OP’s title question, the answer is of course to flee to Canada ahead of the new laws becoming official. Now from Canada, if we are afraid of the new theocracy expanding north, I would jump to Scotland or Oz.
Jim
I would like to know where this public support for death penalty for adulterers is. Never heard of it. In fact, I hear the christians screaming they will be put in the camps.
One could never have a christian totalitarian country here, they’d all be infighting each other to see who was “more christian.” Not gonna happen. Der is safe.
IIRC, the most direct path to Oz begins in Kansas, right smack in the middle of Jesusland. Plus, meterological conditions apparently need to be just right (certain features of architecture may also be necessary). Canada seems to be a safer bet.
At the most it speaks ill of those Christians who were threatening him. I don’t see that it speaks ill of you or the OP. Besides, isn’t that sort of a really nasty mentality you have there. “Oh, somebody doesn’t like the group I belong to. We must be doing something wrong.” Some people are just bigots against certain groups.
To be sure, there will always be someone who will not like you just for spite.
But if we as Christians lived up to Christ’s expectations as far as treating people, it would be pretty hard to find fault with us at all.
As a whole, we don’t even come close. And the hippocracy of proclaiming one thing and acting another way is fuel for the fire.
As long as you mentioned Jesusland, I thought I would link the map to it. (This is only one version of course).
As far as Oz & Kansas, I of course meant this Oz not the one most notably accessed from Kansas.
You know I drove through Kansas one day and it really did look sepia toned.
Jim
That’s an awesome sentiment, but don’t feel too bad about Der. He really is just a prick.
As a slightly paranoid atheist with a strong distrust for organized religion, government, and humanity in general, and who actually did move to Canada*, I would like to say:
gardener, you have got to be fucking kidding me.
I…
…I mean…
… you have GOT to be fucking kidding me.
- Ok, so I moved for romantic reasons, not political ones… mostly.
The style of sarcasm employed in the OP was vaguely annoying in his other (GD) thread. It is still vaguely annoying.
I’m a little vague on why I thought to respond to it.
Favorite concentration camp (alright, prison camp) movie line (Otto Preminger as commandant of Stalag 17, addressing American POWs):
“Perhaps ve vill haff a White Christmas - just like the vuns you used to know.”
How are you with unorganized religions?
Seriously, Christian concentration camps? I’m a Christian and rest assured I would not want to live under any man-made theocracy.
Maybe the OP recently read Heinlein’s Revolt in 2100 .
Bing Crosby singing Christmas Tunes 12 months of the year
Where’s it coming from?
Christian Reconstructionism. It’s popular in my area. Scary, too.
Here’s the Wikipedia synopsis: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Reconstructionism
BMalion, you may find my links on Christian Reconstructionism (above) to be interesting.
I was talking about Jesus overturning the money changers tables at the temple.
God in scripture is not always about love towards humanity as I understand it, but also has shown anger and perhaps revenge. The view that God is just love is a way to make Christanity more ‘user friendly’ and to attract more people. All my humble O.
You state that Christains are called to show the love of Christ. Why just the love part, why not the anger (or are they the same)?
The “anger part” belongs only to God, not to you. You are not given the authority to judge.
Since the thread that Guinastasia linked to contains much the same style of representing crap as truth, I’m thinkin’ this OP is a whoosh. In the unlikely event that the OP isn’t a whoosh:
Not obvious.
Bullshit.
And who would those officials be? Got a name?
I’m calling this a deliberate lie, unless you can provide cites. Look, Sparky: Post a link to a cite, or don’t post at all until Google is working for you.
Links to the alleged threads don’t require Google. Just post the links, if you think they exist.
When come back, bring brain.
Note: I’m a confirmed unbeliever; a dyed-in-the-wool agnostic and even I think this is crap. Or more likely, a whoosh.
[Ben Kingsley in Sneakers]Don’t kid yourself, Marty, it’s not that organized.[/Ben Kingsley in Sneakers]
It’s a whoosh, but this part:
Is true.
Read Qadgop’s links on Christian Reconstructionism.
A priest of my acquaintance used to have hanging on the wall of his office a sign:
We as Christians are commanded to show Christ’s love. A variety of places in Scripture, notably John 13:34-35, can be adduced as cites. Nowhere does He say, “Show my wrath unto others.” Quite the contrary: “Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.”
Attributing motives to others is usually a bad move. Many Christians do what Jesus commanded as the most important things to do simply because He commanded it as the most important things to do, not because it’s “user friendly” or “politically correct” or they “like to water down the Gospel.”
As for the O.P., two things need to be said. And it’s much like the China Syndrome nuke plant issue: the probability is low, but the danger if the low-probability event happens is high. Specifically, a group called the Christian Reconstructionists is out to revise the Constitution and laws of the U.S. to correspond to what they believe a “moral Christian” society ought to be. You can imagine the sorts of things that that would encompass: no freedom of religion, no freedom of speech where it goes against their creed, “homosexuality” a capital crime, banning of “legal vices,” etc. These guys are considered the lunatic fringe even by most evangelical Christians … but their support is growing. And according to Mel White, who should know, Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell are among the supporters of that group. I don’t know about Dobson et al. but their fulminations about “anti-Christian groups” seem to sound an awful lot like it.
I’m pretty sure that was tongue in cheek. He’s making fun of Der Trihs’ paranoia and victim complex.