How can you compare these two? Are you an idiot?

I assume that you cut out the part of the conversation where she said that the people who make these shirts should be arrested…because I don’t see it in the OP.

Honey: Just as we are free to express, others are free to protest. Every time I put a Darwin Fish on my car someone removes it.

Just pointing out that of course removing your sticker from your car does not constitute any form of protected speech or “protest”: it is vandalism and theft.

Opal

There are certainly laws against it in the UK and in Europe, many apply to the display of Nazi symbolism.

Incitement to racial hatred is particularly frowned upon by the police, and if you were present when such behavior was being conducted and were wearing such clothes then there isn’t too much doubt about the attitude of the law enforcement agencies.

jarbabyj*: I was addressing casdave’s post, and asking him to clarify his position.
*I am so so so so so so sorry, but I accidentally typed this as “jarjar” the first time :X

I’m wondering more whether he has permission to reproduce/rip off Beryl Cook’s art.

Yeah, I know but for $1.99 I can just replace it. It’s not worth stewing about. Goddess knows there are enough things in the world already to make my blood pressure rise.
:slight_smile:

So anyway… back to the intent of the OP… who here thinks that the right to wear a t-shirt with Jesus flipping the bird is the same as the right to rearrange someone’s face?

Yeah, that is a pretty blatant rip-off. I would consider reporting that to CafePress. (Well, not me myself, I would do it if I weren’t so darn lazy…)

If the rip-off of Beryl Cook’s art is considered “satire”, it might not be considered copyright infringement. But I don’t know if it is.

It is a little astonishing that these people thought that such tasteless and rude t-shirts had no right to be published. That’s just single-minded ignorance.

However, every time anyone publishes something controversial, they have to expect dissent, and a negative reaction.

Opal you don’t understand him because you don’t speak Stupid.

Stupid sounds really close to english but it is not english and you should not confuse the two.

You should be smart enough to know that. :stuck_out_tongue:

you mean rearrange with photoshop?

Eh…no.

And I fully agree that if she has a problem with it, she should complain to CafePress. It’s up to CafePress if they want to sell the stuff or not… (but I think they do since the stuff is featured on their “most popular thongs” page)… and if the conversation had ended there it would have been one thing…

I have several t-shirts I designed myself as a graphic designer which I freely admit were designed -with the express intent- of offending fundamentalist xtians. However, even I am unsure of how I feel about this shirt… An initial smirk in recognition of the success of the shock value they were going for, followed -very- quickly by parental instinct of knowing I would probably not find it at all funny if I saw someone wearing it in public…Hypocritical of me? Maybe. What’s your reaction?

http://www.tshirthell.com/insensitive.htm

BTW, OpalCat, yes- that person is an idiot. They seem incapable of seperating emotion from logic when debating a point. Or, more likely, incapable of logic. period.

Heh, I like it.

There’s a shirt I want from rottencotton.com that I probably would never wear because some people would probably take it wrong. It’s a plain black shirt with ‘White Devil’ written on it in smallish print. I like the idea of taking hateful names and phrases and defusing them by adopting them in an ironic sense, but some idiot would probably assume I was racist or something if I wore it.

Guess I’ll have to settle for the ‘Dead Girls Never Say No’ shirt. Who’s going to be offended by that? Dead rape victims?

My favorite from tshirthell is this one: http://www.tshirthell.com/shirts/tshirt.php?sku=a131

And I’d probably dislike seeing MOST of the tshirt hell shirts actually on someone.

Maybe not technically, but CafePress has a pretty stritch policy on anything that could even be remotely construed as copyright infringement.

strict, I have no idea what that word I wrote was. Urgh… :o

To answer your ? Badtz Maru: the families of dead rape victims.

Yeah, you can’t even have the word “caution” in your design :wink:

(I wink, but it’s actually true)

Wow, CafePress has expanded their product offerings since I last looked there… thongs, even! :smiley: