Do you think there is something an “effective” politician could do to keep this from spreading to Texas or any other state?
I don’t think it’s possible to prevent the spread based on how contagious it appears to be and the fact that it spreads when there are no symptoms and after symptoms are gone. Best you could do is slow it down.
Did you read the article?
The CV patients were to be transferred to a better facility in AL than the current makeshift one @ Lackland AFB. Shelby, upon learning this, blocked the transfer. Cornyn and Cruz were ineffective in getting this block lifted (their staffs told me they were ‘working on it’ when I called Friday). The patients are still here and the CDC apparently released one (if not more) person prior to all the test results coming back.
I’m stand by my statement.
China has a massive smoking rate - especially among elderly males, who also are the main victims in Wuhan.
Wuhan is also quite a polluted city. Heavy industry like Wuhan Iron and Steel, and automotive industry. It cannot be helpful to be breathing polluted air and getting a coronavirus lung infection. Jus’ sayin’
I’m now concerned enough that today I started wearing a mask at work. I just started a gig that will have about 130,000 attendees from all over the world and I figured hey, better safe than sorry.
Also the air pollution in Wuhan and other Chinese cities is terrible. Far worse than anywhere in the US. Another thing is the fact that most men in China smoke cigarettes like crazy. All told there are 350 million Chinese smokers. Sixty percent of DOCTORS smoke in China! With these two factors, its no wonder a flu sickness is killing large numbers in China. The death rate in China cannot be used to predict what the death rate will be in the US if this flu spreads.
I am concerned enough about the new coronovirus that I researched it a ton and has been following the news intensively since late January 2020.
I am more concerned about the consequences of the virus, such as closing the universities and schools, recession in economy, or people losing their jobs.
Yeah, I bought a month’s worth of dried rice and beans. I doubt we’ll need it. But it makes me feel like I’m doing something, and what’s the worst that could come of that? Maybe rodents in the basement? And we’ll probably eat the rice and bean eventually.
Huh, that seems off to me. He’s old. Popes die.
Okay, that makes sense. It already IS real to me, but I suppose it will feel more real to a lot of people if they “know” someone who has it.
Oh, wow. I’m sorry. Best wishes dealing with them.
Panic buying has hit my suburb suddenly. No tissues, no toilet paper, no rice, flour, oil, or pasta to be had. It’s a bit crazy.
In the Bay Area we already have earthquake supplies, so we should be good. So long as the electricity and water and internet don’t go out, we can handle a quarantine, no problem.
In fact I have a colonoscopy coming up Thursday, so can you make it quick, guys?
I’m in Southern California and hit up three different supermarkets in the past week just buying random stuff, half part of my normal routine and other half just buying several gallons of water and a couple dozen cans of soup just to be safe.
Not really seeing any panic buying even in toilet paper. However all hand sanitizer is gone, bottled water is all gone (but everything else from liter bottles to the 2 gallon jugs are all fully stocked), and for some reason the cheap hot dogs were all gone (the ones you get for under $1 an 8 pack) but every other brand of hot dog was still there. Guess nobody wanted to pay the extra 50 cents for Oscar Meyer.
As usual I’m much more concerned about what people will do in reaction to a thing that the thing itself. Specially when the news industry sets on a fear mongering narrative.
Another factor, I think, is that the Chinese government promotes the use of traditional Chinese “medicine”, as opposed to actual medicine.
Seemed like a good time to reorganize the disaster that was our pantry and stock it with some useful supplies. A few extra boxes of pasta, cereal, some beans. While I’m not expecting pandemic disaster, it IS possible that there will be a quarantine or other restriction of movement, and may as well have a few meals socked away.
I’m not sure what the hoarding of water is for, unless people just really have undrinkable water. If coronavirus gets bad enough that water stops flowing, we are well and truly screwed.
There’s 8,000 foreign students from Asia in my little geographically isolated town. The majority of those students are from the PRC. Spring break begins March 28 and ends April 6. If a lot of those students head home for break, I’m hoping they don’t bring anything back. There’s a lot of town/gown mixing. Many international students shop at Wegmans, which is packed from 8 AM to 10 PM daily.
I had been planning to travel to Vegas for a few days at the end of the month. Now I am thinking I won’t go anywhere crowded/international until all this blows over. I know that is exactly the kind of thing that dents the economy, but I don’t want to catch it, and I would really hate to spread it.
For me, it’s about general emergency preparedness. I used some of mine during a water main break about a year and a half ago that affected the building I live in. So while I was doing inventory on what I had set aside it just made sense to check the emergency water and rotate out what was getting old.
I don’t expect the power to go out, either, but I also checked my battery/emergency lighting supply for similar reasons. Because a bad storm could (and has) left me without power for hours to days. And since I work at a grocery store I’m still expected to get to work on time whether my residence has power or not because regardless people will be at the store wanting to buy stuff.
I’m also planning to replace the windshield wipers on both my vehicles in the next couple days because it’s time to do so - although in that case I already have spares ready to go. And while I’m doing that I’ll be checking on my supply of stuff like washer fluid and stuff because why not, I’m looking at the machinery anyway.
If you keep up with stuff like that when an emergency or crisis comes up you’ll likely have most or all of what you need already so you don’t have to panic buy or purchase a lot of stuff all at once.
I think less thought should be devoted to protecting the economy and more to protecting actual people.
YOU do what keeps YOU safe. Followed by doing what keeps the people (if any) you are responsible for safe.
The economy will recover regardless of what you do or do not do. So don’t worry about the economy until after you have taken care of yourself.
Some people appear to not get what I am saying about vape lung. I am NOT saying: if you don’t have vape lung you are immune from the coronavirus. I am saying the coronavirus is out there, along with a bunch of other infectious agents. Someone without vape lung could have considerable trouble fighting off the coronavirus, and could have trouble with other infectious agents too. Viruses have been around and killing some people for all of human history. Without advanced antiviral medicine and other medical interventions like breathing tubes, it is a matter of how strong your immune system is, and in this case how healthy your lungs are. What we are talking about is how dangerous is this particular virus. My guess is it is a typical virus singled out when Chinese doctors started seeing too many pneumonia cases when the flu season started. I suspect they were seeing too many pneumonia cases because they have an epidemic of vape lung, just like the USA (see the wikipedia article I cited in another post). Given that the vape hardware and the dangerous additives are manufactured in China (citation in another post), you would expect a vape lung epidemic there too. The wikipedia article says it is almost exclusively a USA epidemic, which suggests to me the Chinese vape lung problems are being incorrectly attributed. The alternative is that the Chinese are manufacturing these things and none of it makes it to the local markets, which I think would be odd. Another way to look at it: what if there were two different viruses, one a “monster virus” and the other “run of the mill”. What if the world has been focused on the “run of the mill virus” and the “monster virus” is also going around too? This would be the same sort of problem: thinking you have definitively nailed down the cause of the pneumonia spike, but really blaming the wrong cause.
(Also I noticed someone misattributed a local shortage post to me above, no big deal.)
If “vape lung” is the problem then why aren’t we seeing an equal number of problems with people who vape and also have flu, or colds, or other infections? Do you think no one asked Chinese people about their smoking and vaping habits? Also keep in mind that people in the US have social and even legal pressure to vape due to restrictions on smoking, regulations that, last I heard, do not exist in China. So smokers in China have zero reason to move to vaping because they can still smoke everywhere. That’s where this theory of yours falls down.
People are dying places where vaping is not a big thing, where people are still smoking rather than vaping. I’m sorry you have trouble understanding that there really is a new virus on the loose that, while not the zombie apocalypse, really does seem to be more hazardous than the typical flu. But that is the case.
Another alternative is under-reporting by some countries.