How could a police officer be this wrong?

Thank. Fucking. God.

Although you’ve said similar things many times, so I won’t count on it.

I’m just telling you that I’d be suspicious if someone asked me, with no preface, if a particular car was mine. I have no dog in this fight; I’m not on your list.

Suspicious of what?

Missed the edit window. And even if you were suspicious and you decided to ask what the issue was, wouldn’t a handicapped person commenting that the vehicle was parked illegally in handicapped parking (right next to the vehicle of that handicapped person) alleviate any “suspicion” you may have had regarding the situation??? :confused:

I read a few of the earlier pages of this thread when they were current, and just opened it again now on the final page.

Really, people.

Jamie did exactly this – he called the cops, who told him they couldn’t ticket a ‘company car’, so he came here and wrote an OP asking if cops could really be that dumb. I haven’t seen a responsive answer to this yet (although there may be one in the pages I’ve skipped). Now all I see are people calling him out, telling him to chill, or suggesting that he become involved in a civic organization to affect changes to the law.

Really, people (take two). There is *already *a law prohibiting able bodied drivers from parking in spaces reserved for handicapped people. Jaime is bitching about its lack of enforcement.

People aren’t bitching about the original problem in the OP. Go dig up his old man encounter a few pages back. That a totally separate event from from the original event.

Ahh, post 176. Page 4.

That was Part I of the thread. Jamie revived it to talk about a completely different, new incident.

OK, I see the newer context. Thank you. I’ve read the pages following your reference to post 176. All I see is another illegal parking incident, and Jamie interacting with some guy who might have been the owner of the car but who denies being so. And who gives Jaime a ration of shit for, what? Inquiring if said guy is the lawbreaker?

I have to agree with Bricker in posts 207, 221, and 234. Were it your ox being repeatedly gored, and that by a seemingly endless stream of uncaring people, might you also become hyper-sensitized to that particular lawbreaking activity? What if it were speeders passing your child’s school, or loud roaring trucks in the quiet zone outside your mother’s hospital room, or similar demonstrations of flagrant violations of society’s rules? Do you not think you would take notice of these violators more and more?

I’m still not seeing anything out of bounds here.

Short version answer. I ain’t going to retype the nuances of this issue that have been discussed and pointed out for the past handful of pages.

He plays parking lot cop with civilians on a regular basis. They often get pissed and give him shit apparently. He keeps at it and they tell him to move on. He is shocked!

How many times does he have to do this before he realizes thats how its often going to go down in his town of assholes?

Or in other words that ole classic version of the definition of insanity.

Sad thing is there are probably much better ways he could spend his time and mental energy to fix this problem but he likes playing parking lot Columbo apparently.

Pretty much NOBODY here thinks illegally parking in a handicapped space isn’t a big deal. Thats not remotely the point.

Huh. So

“Is this your car?” (next to mine)
“No. Why?”
“Cause it’s illegally parked.”
“<tirade>”

is playing “parking lot cop”? You’re right, I’m just not seeing the nuances.

I do though agree with your characterization of his “town of assholes”. I remain surprised that your ire (the inclusive you, as the South says, y’all) is directed at Jaime instead of the miscreants. Color me too thick to understand. It’s those nuances that elude me, I’m sure.

Then you need to read some more, think some more, and actually ask some some more pointed questions because that’s the exact same whaaaattt? thing Jamie did that has been going on for pages with. I ain’t (and I doubt anyone else here is either) going to start from point zero for you that they start with Jamie at.

Why isn’t it directed at the miscreants? Uhhhh, maybe because they ain’t HERE posting?

Okay, fuck those mescreants with a ghost pepper encrusted catus! Happy now?

Yes, quite happy now, thank you. The proper parties have at least gotten some small share of their due.

I don’t know why you keep telling me to read, I said I’ve now read the entire thread. I’ve also read Jaime’s original airplane fiasco thread, in which I was among those critical of him. And I’ve read some of his other variations on the theme. I’ve criticized him there as well. But this thread seems different, in that Jaime does not go to excess but instead acts in a refreshingly reasonable and rational manner. So I was surprised at the vitriol directed his way this time.

Good on you for making all that fade into the background. :slight_smile:

Just a bit of sanity. Thank you.

You’re not seeing the “nuances” because you’re leaving out the fact that this guy knows something about Jamie’s history. You’re leaving out the “Oh, this, guy, the guy who got kicked out of two gyms already. The guy who got in the newspaper when he blocked another car with his car.”

Do you really think that it is justified to leave this information out? Even if this old man’s understanding of the situation is entirely wrong, or that his impressions of Jamie are completely wrong, because he hasn’t heard the “whole story” of Jamie’s past encounters, it’s entirely natural for someone in that situation to have a reaction like that.

That’s how reputations work in human society.

I mean, seriously, have none of you interacted with people in the real world?

Well, not smoothly apparently :slight_smile:

Uh, slight nitpick here: This man was only aware of the gym incident involving the parking lot and the resulting expulsion. He had no information about Planet Fitness and it’s totally unrelated issues. So “one gym”; not two.

Buuullshit. “Entirely natural”. That is the biggest load of bullshit in this entire thread. Wow. Just wow.

The fact that you keep focusing on the minutiae of the facts really says a lot. I wasn’t there. I don’t know your life. I take no responsibility for an accurate recitation of the facts, because no matter what I say I’m going to be wrong. An accurate recitation of the facts is is irrelevant to what I’m saying.

Frankly, I don’t care about the facts. I’m not you and I’m not any of the people involved in your little dramas, and I live nowhere near them. None of it actually matters to me. So I’m going to go only so far in trying to memorize the exact details of the situation. I just don’t care that much. I’m not your friend, I’m not your mother, I’m not your therapist, and I’m not your lawyer. And I’m also not a journalist reporting on your story.

You asked a question about human nature and social interaction. I’m trying my best to show you why your experience in this situation is not abnormal or out of the ordinary or inordinately surprising. But you really have no interest in that kind of understanding. Every time you start a niggling discussion of the specific facts shows that you have no actual interest in a human understanding of the situation you’re in.

As for your evaluation that my attempt to open your eyes to a broader understanding of human nature is nothing but “buuuuuuulshit,” well, fuck it, Jamie, you’re a fucking genius then.

What’s really astonishing is that accepting what I have to say doesn’t require you to admit to any wrongdoing on your part at all. Nothing I say requires you to admit you did anything wrong. It doesn’t require you to admit that this old man did anything right. All it requires you to do is acknowledge something about human nature that should be bloody fucking obvious to anyone who has lived beyond adolescence.

I really don’t know what else there is to say. You obviously have to interest in understanding what’s going on in the world around you—you just want to be told that you’re right.

I just think you are completely wrong in your assessments of human behavior. My god do I. To say that such a rude, disrespectful reaction from a person; in response to a completely innocent and reasonable question, irrespective of any past history of mine, is totally natural and understandable, is laughable and disingenuous on it’s face. Most people in this man’s position, knowing what he knew about me, would have shown sympathy and encouragment to me; which is usually what I get in comparable situations.