I have to wonder how many places who has been kicked out of or banned from where for what and and when? Personally I am batting zero on that score. I can’t speak for the others.
I think that might answer who actually knows what about human nature and social interaction.
Yeah, forgive me for wanting correct information to be bandied about here. My bad. I did say it was a slight nitpick; nothing major.
And I must say, I have incredible interest in understanding the world in which I live; that’s a big part of why I stick around here. But to suggest that simply because I reject your, and a handful of others’, “interpretation” of that world that I have no interest in understanding it; is just silly and small. There isn’t really any debate as to “who’s right or wrong” in this story; I mean I was polite, courteous and respectful and this man was rude and disrespectful. So fault is not at issue here. At least not to me. Or anyone who looks at this objectively and fairly.
Sure, he did what he did because he knew about me getting kicked out of my old gym for blocking in a young man who was illegally parked and refusing to move. I get that. But to suggest that that behavior was expected or natural, even understandable, is so outrageous it doesn’t really even deserve a serious response.
There is only one place I have ever been kicked out of for my deliberate breaking of rules/laws. The Planet Fitness “banning” had nothing to do with my personality or the way I interact with the rest of the world. Nothing whatsoever. Now I am not going to re-hash that story, so if anyone would like to read it, they can look it up themselves. But it’s all here. (yeah, I know, there I go again with those stupid “facts”)
And in that one gym incident that did get me banned, I felt compelled to action in a way that I never had before; or since.
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[/QUOTE]Ok, thread devolution has hit a “leaving point”. There’s nothing to be gained here. Have fun guys.
But IIRC, in that incident you posted about, you were surprised and mad you had been banned when pretty much else was like :eek: for what you did and was surprised you weren’t in jail for that matter. Which tells me you didn’t get it then and you still don’t get it now.
WTF? Sorry, I said I was gone, shouldn’t have said that.
A very appropriately timed article and video featured in today’s Detroit Free Press about the conditions/abuses of handicapped parking in the State of Michigan (the state in which I live).
The old man, having heard of your previous confrontation senses a repeat performance. He does not want to be involved in your parking lot drama. He is having a perfectly nice day and is not willing to let it get spoiled with your anger. This is based on what he knows about you, which is little, but this is what he draws upon. He reacts based on the information he has and his mood at the particular time. That’s what people do.
What you’re expecting is that the guy sets aside what his knowledge and have empathy for your situation. That’s just not going to happen. Your reputation as an angry person does not compel people to help you. No matter how right you are, people do not want to deal with your anger. Strangers do not owe you that.
This (and everything stolatt has said in this thread has been spot-on).
If there is anything to take away, perhaps it’s that you have built up a reputation that influences the way people perceive your actions, justified or not. People expect that you will be an angry person, and will react to you accordingly. It sucks, but it has to be dealt with, and is an important factor as you decide the best ways to accomplish your goals, going forward.
(God knows you have a right to be angry-- the crap that disabled folks have to go through even to get their legally-mandated rights is insane, and anyone who implies you shouldn’t be angry, or should feel a certain way, is being disgustingly disrespectful of you as a person and as a member of the disabled community.)
Still, given that reputation (again, existing, whether justified or not) and the fact that you have a goal to accomplish, how do you go forward? I’ve read (the fraction of) your threads on this particular topic, and it sounds like you’ve mellowed a hell of a lot-- there’s much less of a “Jamie vs. the world” vibe than there used to be, and your first post in this thread (about contacting the authorities to police violations) is case in point. Awesome.
Correct me if I’m wrong, one of the things I don’t remember hearing is your involvement in community activism of any kind. This might be a situation where more heads are better than one: for example, work with a group (existing or new) in your area to sit down and discuss your concerns with the police, reinforcing for them the importance of policing parking violations and clarifying how they handle certain situations (such as business-owned vehicles). It might be the case that with enough citizen involvement, they could be influenced to change their approach. Or, talk to business owners-- raise awareness.
This also benefits you, because being involved with a group that pursues its goals through civil means helps you be perceived less as “that angry guy” and more of a team player…which can pay off in all kinds of ways.
I was expecting such a thing; but I definitely wasn’t expecting this man to behave rudely or disrespectfully, either, based on nothing but a perfectly valid question. Strangers should show other strangers a little respect in everyday situations when they interact with one another; regardless of anything else. It’s called “society” and “civilization” for a reason.
What anger can this man discern from my question? This is what I’m not getting. If he doesn’t want to be involved in anything, all he had to do was leave the conversation at “no” when asked if the car was his. Instead, he continued on in that conversation with a follow up question, “What’s the problem?”, signaling that he DID want at least SOME involvement with my “anger”. So that’s bogus.
That should be “wasn’t” expecting such a thing.
Then write it off to a cranky/rude old man and move on. Sheesh.
That’s the funniest thing I’ve read yet. He can’t even move on from a thread, despite repeated claims of “I’m done!!”
So much for being done with this thread, huh?
Dammit! :smack: I mean it this time. 