How dare the Grammys not give Beyonce every award!

Maybe I should turn it around. How many white winners in a row would it take before you would acknowledge an appearance of unfairness? 25? 30? 40? 50? 100?

Quote: Well, she “could care less what you think.”

One of my favorite nitpicks - its “couldn’t care less” unless, of course, she really could.

I like what Santana said (paraphrasing) - Adele is a musician, Beyonce is a model who can sing a little.

It’s not that - it’s that, of the 22, none are in the “big three” performing categories (Album, Record, New Artist). She has one of the “big four” (Song), but for co-writing “Single Ladies.”

Adele and Taylor Swift each have two Album of the Year Grammys; Adele also has two Record of the Year Grammys.

Hmmm…here’s a thought; is it possible that they gave Album of the Year to Adele just so Taylor Swift wouldn’t be the only female singer to win the award twice for solo albums?

…erm, do we? I don’t recall seeing any protesters out on the streets after the Grammys but I have seen a “few” since Trump was inaugurated.

There are people in this country who will care more about celebrity than they do government no matter who is running the country and who are the most popular celebs. And there are many who will go out of their way to ignore celebrity and will de-facto care more about who’s running the country.

And there are people who can enjoy CELEBRITY and care deeply about GOVERNMENT at the SAME TIME. I’m serious!

If you have some sort of proof that a decent sample size of people are too distracted by celebrity royalty to care about government, then please present it and I will say “Oh my, that is a shame and the country is going to heck! HECK!!”

But otherwise I will just nod and say “yes, some people will always ignore government. Whatcha gonna do?”

And BTW I have seen zero outrage about Beyonce, at least in my little Liberal echo chamber of a Facebook account. People are rallying against Trump daily, and still talking about DAPL and still talking about cabinet confirmations and stuff. The only things I heard about the Grammys was some nutter I recently friended who was DISGUSTED by A Tribe Called Quest’s “shameful” performance “against Trump.”

So I sit un-convinced that “we” care more about “celebrity royalty” than we do about who’s running the country. Maybe that was a problem in 1964, I dunno. Pretty sure “we” have the tools to watch both kingdoms these days.

I agreed with most of your post, but this part surprised me. I thought Slate was required reading in the liberal bubble.

Yeah, I rarely see links shared from Slate. Sometimes, but not nearly as much as WaPo, NYT or HuffPo. Every so often I hear about Slate as being the super-lefty-liberal-snowflake blog for the coffee house crowd, and I wonder why I don’t see it more. I guess my friends are too old? (late 30s)

My friends are seriously het up about the government. Seriously.

Huh. I’m a bit older than you, though my wife’s in her early thirties so I see stuff from people all through their thirties and forties, plus some from my retired (very liberal) mom and her friends. All of whom are fired up against the government; but only in that last group do I see relatively little Slate. Go figure.

Wait… people still read Slate? And like 90% of my Facebook friends are pretty far left.

(that being said, I did see some folks who rolled their eyes at the Grammys, not upset, just not surprised, but the vast majority of those folks were African-American)

Yes, they do. Slate gets a little more traffic than my favorite site, The Atlantic, but not as much as Politico:

http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/slate.com

http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/theatlantic.com

http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/politico.com

Obviously I was using hyperbole, but it doesn’t seem by much. Slate’s readership has really crated (223rd site in the US). Strange that viewership went down during the election (after a bump during… the conventions?).

Then you must think The Atlantic is doing terribly, which is not my impression at all.

Oh heck. That linked article includes this notion:

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Now, I’m not sure if I would recognise her or not, and that’s fine, because I’m too old to be her target audience, but SURELY she’s not widely thought to be the most recognisable face on the planet? :dubious:

Actually, it needn’t matter to her what prizes she gets or doesn’t, given that she seems to inspire such great devotion in her fans.

Yeah, similar to Taylor Swift in that regard. Not sure what they get out of these “megastars.”

That’s really a key point. She already has all the money, fame, and adulation anyone could possibly dream of.

Actually yes. Ever since Sullivan, Douthat, and Coates left, I haven’t even noticed it at all.

Aside from Queen Elizabeth II, Obama, and Trump, I’m not sure there is anyone alive more recognizable (Messi, maybe?). Now, granted, you may say that QE2, Obama, and Trump are far more recognizable, but Beyonce may be in the argument if she’s in the Top 5.

I think there is an underestimation of how popular and acclaimed Beyonce actually is beyond her true believer fans. She was a #6 for Time’s Person of the Year in 2016, after all (behind only - Trump, Hillary Clinton, The Hackers, Recep Erdogan, and the CRISPR pioneers, the later being scientists using tools to alter human DNA to attempt to cure diseases)

I would think a lot of actors would have more famous faces. Will Smith, Morgan Freeman, de Niro, Jackie Chan.

Probably she’s top five amongst living musical artists