How did I become a wife beater...

when I’ve never even been married?

At one time a poster wanted to know what the purpose of wife beaters was. It seemed clear to me that they served no purpose at all; it fact, they were criminals.

But I read the thread anyway.

And I learned s/he was talking about a kind of (under)shirt, without sleeves, which is usually just called a “tank top.” There were good pro and con answers, but I imagine the OP was probably from some northern place where the weather is not so consistanly hot. The best answer to me was that if you’re in a place that is so hot your armpits are going to sweat through to anything you wear over the “regular” T-shirt—you just get that much hotter. And some places have signs which still say: “No shoes, no shirt, no service.” One place where one would have a very good reason to wear a wife beater is at a gym. So if you’re at home or at the beach, or at a place where no one minds, why not wear a “wife beater.” But I’d never wear one to my grandmother’s funeral, or to meet the president.

And another thing: look at the kind of things people like Britney Spears wears. Is she a “husband beater” (maybe that’s why the marriage was so short). Even my own girlfriend wears things that only a chihuahua could fit into. And not only that, but they say pretty “risqué” things, such as: “Mining for Man Money,” or “Just taste this, honey.” But even when I explain the connotations of the expressions, she just shrugs her shoulders and says: “Well, it was cheap, and it looks good.” (Maybe too good, from some of the ogles she’s gotten, I say.) But I can’t really blame her. She’s from Colombia, and the first time she saw a KFC she asked me if “Coronel Sanders” had been one of our presidents. She’s not completely ignorant; just adjusting to U.S. culture, but that was one of the funniest things I’d ever heard.

Anyway, in Los Angeles you see quite a few otherwise very conservative, middle-aged women wearing these things, with similar slogans.

Then I had a revelation: “Wow! I used to wear wife beaters myself!” I did a little Googling, and found a site that said they came slightly back into vogue in the mid 90s. I find this somewhat suspicious, but a review of my photos shows that if so, I’m guilty.

In any case, I’d like to show first, that “wife beaters” are not always worn by men, contrary to myth: . Sara obvioulsy was one–just look at her.

I don’t know if she had a secret wife to beat.

Next, here’s myself, in my first, horrible entrée into the world of wife beating:

Then the next step.
Then the next stetp…

I’ve since kicked the habit–cold turkey. It required air-conditioning in both my care and house. But they say, “Once a wife beater, always a wife beater.” So I’ve got to stay away from those shirts.

Now I know that wives get beaten significantly more than husbands, (and I have complete contempt of any form of spousal abuse–I don’t mean to make fun of a serious social problem). I think you should have realized by now that this is purely a fashion statement. Domestic violence is a horrible and very sad thing. But still, I have other (photographic) evidence that it’s not only men who “beat their wives.”

More women wife beaters.

So the questions for Dopers is: "Should we continue this term? And how did it come into being? It couldn’t simply have been “A Street Car Named Desire.”

Aha, sigh of relief. I had thought it must only be my non-USA-ness that made me utterly confused by this “wife-beater” thing. When I encountered the term here on SDMB, I had to Google it lest I start off on an anti-violence rant, as you can imagine. We’d probably calll such a garment a “sleeveless top” here, but I doubt that any will be in evidence in Britain until it gets warmer. Warm woolly jumers ‘R’ Us!

No, NOT kangaroos interbred with sheep, no.
:slight_smile:
I liked the KFC story. :slight_smile:

Um…tank tops like those women (and the man in the gray tank) are wearing are not wife beaters. Wife Beaters are ribbed and usually begin their existance as white, while tank tops are not ribbed and come in every color imaginable. Tank tops are meant as normal shirts, and wife beaters are meant to be worn under other shirts.

Well, Elfkin has already explained why your pictures are not of people wearing wife beaters, but I thought that I would chime in with another use for the term wife beater. Here in the UK (well, I assume it’s a term used all over the UK, but it is at least definately used in Glasgow), it is also a term used for Stella Artois. This is because of the beers slightly higher alcohol content than other beers.

As for the question of should we continue using this term, I can’t see why not. It’s more or less just an accepted term to describe a particular article of clothing (or beer), not some sort of statement that domestic violence is somehow acceptable.

As for how it came into being, I would assume that wife beaters (the shirt) are associated with the same people that are most often associated with domestic violence (think stereotypical trailer trash).

All this said, I would never wear a wife beater or a normal tank top. I gave that up at the same time as I gave up wearing bright neon colored clothing (yes, I was a child of the 80’s). I also don’t particulary like Stella Artois and will pick another type of beer if given a choice.

It’s just as likely to be a lower-class urban male. All the “bad husbands” in the gritty urban movies from the 40s and 50s, and TV from the 60s (and even the 70s) wore those undershirts with no shirt over them. These charcters may or may not have beaten their wives in the story, but it was assumed that they all did in the backstory. They all had that Stanley Kowalski menace about them.

Wife beaters are properly called “A-shirts”.

There was a local brewer hereabouts that did a “Wife Beater” bitter for a while. It attracted the opprobrium you’d expect, and from the quarters you’d expect. But I like the brewers who make “Cripple Cock” cider (UK cider is always alcoholic, it needs no other qualifier). The bottles have a picture of a rooster on crutches. Yeah, we know that’s what the name means. :dubious:

Correct. A T-shirt by definition has short sleeves, which form the crossbar to the letter “T” after which it is named. “Sleeveless T-shirt” is a contradiction in terms.

We’ve all been here. Right?

Yeah. But we’ve all been down Melrose. That’s not the point at hand.

While I can’t see any difference, I’m glad that someone believes I’m not a wife beater. What exactly does “ribbed” mean? And what does the color have to do with it? Elfkin477, do you have some kind of fashion sense that is beyond me?

So it’s not Stella Kowalski? In any case, I don’t see the connection between that name, the term “wife beater,” and alcohol content of beer. In fact, if the content of alcohol has anything to do with the liklihood of whether someone would beat his wife, I’m somewhat alarmed that they would use this term. Is it a joke? By blood I’m one quarter Scot, so please tell me it’s play on words, or something to that effect.

Don’t worry about the Stella Artois thing or you won’t have any time to non-beat your non-wife. :slight_smile: Really, I (in Glasgow, in the U.K.) have never heard the “wife-beater” thing, but then it’s a long time since I drank Stella, and at 44 I suppose I’m not au fait with the latest lingo. (Of course, if we’re having a beer tangent, I hope there is not a garment known as the Orkney Skullcrusher. :slight_smile: )

All right, back to our sheeps - from the pics, I suppose it is what we might call a vest (if worn under a normal shirt, as a rather old-fashioned thing), and in that case, I do see the connection with the film"stereotype" of the miserable famliy and wife-bashing husband in said garment

I think, now, I would call it a sleeveless top, but it might also be one of those items where the male and femaile version, although the same, have different names.

I give up. This is a bit sad, when you stop to think of all the really difficult and technical questions that the SDMB solves in a matter of minutes. Weird.

As always, Wiki explains everyting much better than I could. Link