How did "Jesus" get the "s" from Hebrew or Aramaic?

Iesous. I’m not sure if it matters, but it’s something I’ve known about for a while, because I’ve always wondered where the O came from. It’s not there in the Hebrew/Aramaic it came from or the Latin that came from it. It makes me think that the O wasn’t pronounced in the Greek.

If it were present in Moses’s Greek name, I’d think it was a way of indicating the previous sigma was a shin.

The Hebrew is Yehoshua – so there is an O, but it’s before the S rather than after.

My friend (who has some knowledge of classical Greek but doesn’t call himself an expert) adds:

Not exactly. As others have pointed out, the Hebrew “Moishe” lacks the final “-s”, which is what I primarily meant.

But even the Egyptian ending “-muse” or “mose”, meaning “child of–” and attached to a god’s name (thus “Ra-Mose” = “Child of Ra” or “Thut-Mose” = “child of Thoth”)* bears the effects of passage through Greek. Our common namnes for Egyptian gods and Pharaohs are derived from Greek, such as “Rameses” That final “-s” is the result of a Greek ending, and without it I’d write it as “Ramose”, albeit with an English silent “e”.

  • The Biblical patriarch Moses" lacks the “theo” part of “theophorus”, presumably because either he removed it when expressing a beilief in a single God or, more likely, because later authors of the proto-Old Testament thought it was inappropriate – there are other examples of the authors screwing with foreign names, especially when they involved the names of foreign gods. Look up “Ishbosheth – Ishbaal” sometime. See Sigmund Freud’s “Moses and Monotheism” for more details. Then read Elias Auerbach or someone else more recent.

Okay, that makes sense. Thanks for the info.

Next, someone is going to ask how he got the last name “Christ”. :smiley:

Bill Cosby has conclusively laid that to rest, IMHO :smiley:

OK, well what does the middle initial “H” stand for?

Howard. His dad’s name. There’s that famous prayer that goes “Our Father, who art in heaven, Howard be thy name…”

Harold, not Howard :wink:

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Thanks for the thread. So it’s wrong that nobody fucks with the Jesus.

Yes, but I think C K’s idea still holds – that English speakers eventually started pronouncing the “J” in “Jesus” as in “jet” or “Japan,” because that sound had become the most common one for the letter written “j” in English.