The crew rebelled as a whole on a recent episode of VOYAGER, (so now I think the mutinies
are complete, with first each one of them disobeying a direct order from Captain Katherine
Janeway, and now all of them getting togehter, by the way). Katherine was going to send the ship through a vortex and stay behind and close it so the bad garbage dump people couldn’t use it to get back home anymore or when they did get home to get to the Night People’s place anymore in order to dump their garbage of deuterium and other things that were radioactive. But the crew had a better idea and they said they would hurry up to the vortex and then destroy it behind them, I think.A) Is this right? I think they also blew up the radioactive waste ship of the bad people and the schlock wave from that explosion propulsed Voyager on ahead through the vortex. It then closed behind them. Thus they could have their cake and eat it too, but B)what about the Night People who were already dying from radiation? Nothing was said about them and if they could get cured from the radioactivity piosoning. Also C)what direction was this strange vortex facing, anyway? I mean it waws facing the way Voyager wanted to go but that would mean that the bad waste people were ahead of them because THEY were using this floating vortex to go home in. Wouldn’t Voyager encounter the bad people and even if only the ones that were dumpsing the waste were bad and the rest of the people were all right, was there eve any mention of a pact where Voyager would give B’Lanna Torres’s solution to the problem of the radiation to these peopel ahead of them along the vortex? like in a following episode?
Tracer!
You got this one? I vaguely remember the premise, but no details.
(maybe if I say it 3 times…)
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The episode synopsis from startrek.com may answer question A - I’m not sure exactly.
http://www.startrek.com/library/voy_episodes/episodes_voy_detail_103365.asp
they ran into the garbage people again, in the episode with the delta flyer racing to get some probe from inside a planet, and another episode that had someting to do with holograms. (it was that interesting…)
I saw this episode.
Hell if I remember much about it other than scratching my head as to how the fuck an area of space other than a black hole could be devoid of all light. It was almost TOS level bad.
Maybe you could explain how the fuck an area of space other than a black hole could not possibly be devoid of all light?
Yeah, Aes. Just imagine being inside the Horsehead Nebula.
Black holes are no more devoid of all light than open space is.
I’m not picking on the illustration, I have some real questions:
Tidal effects don’t reduce photons to quarks?
How would photons strike my optic nerve in a singularity?
I’m not a math geek*, so word answers would work well for me.
*not that being a math geek is a bad thing.
I’ve certainly never heard of photons getting reduced to quarks, but I don’t think that would happen, since photons aren’t really made of quarks.
I guess I don’t know how your optic nerve would work in a black hole. I would have to guess that if you count how dark a place is by how many photons hit your optic nerve, then a black hole is as dark as the center of a star, in the sense that you’d be dead in either place.
Sweet.
So, provided we could make an instrument that would be capable of surviving and be able to measure something (use the deflector dish!)*, would there be any form of EM radiation? Or are we talking about something else entirely?
*had to include something Star Trek…
Yes, but it would all be in one direction, the direction opposite the center of the hole. All the stars in the sky would be squooshed up together.
For an illustration of what it’s like to fall into a black hole that makes absolutely no sense, check this out.
If you’re able to understand this applet, it’s probably more helpful. You can drag the circle representing your position along the line. At 2.0M is the event horizon, so at like 1.5M is what you’d see on the inside. On the outside, you see a black circle on a background of stars. On the inside, you see a circle of stars on a background of black.
But needless to say, it’s nothing like that Voyager episode “Parallax”.
Okay, I should have worded that more carefully. I don’t understand how it would be possible to not see starlight in an open area of space.*
…and I also hesitantly admit that this was just an oppurtunity to take a dig at TOS at NCB’s expense but it blew up in my face like a bridge console during a firefight. Bah.