How Do I Get Started in Photography?

I’m signing up for a trip to England with a group from school, scheduled sometime during Spring 2005. This will be my first trip overseas, and I really want to be able to capture this experience on film. Unfortunately, I know nothing more than the ‘point and click’ school of photography.

My questions are as follows:

What good camera, digital or analog, would be preferable for an amateur interested in learning some formal photography skills? I’m fourteen, but with my birthday nearing, I think my parents would be able to spring for a creative venture like a new camera. :wink: My dad was a photo lab tech back in the day, so I predict he’ll be soft on me. :smiley:

Secondly, and perhaps even more importantly: How could I learn proper photography, besides from experience?

Thanks. :slight_smile:

I started seriously taking pictures when I was 17. I have a degree in film, concentrating in cinematography.

What do you mean by “proper” photography?

Don’t try to learn photography on a really special trip. Learn it when you don’t care what the pics look like, because you have to make mistakes to learn.

Get a good fully manual SLR (single lens reflex). My camera also has automatic settings, so when I’m not in the mood to worry about my aperture I don’t have to.

I have a Canon Eos. It’s eight years old. Canons are good startup cameras, they’re cheap, lenses and accessories are easy to find and they’re sturdy. If you want a fully manual camera, go with a more expensive Nikon.

Learning. I learned by buying a ton of film (if you get serious, get a bulk loader and a changing bag. You’ll save money in the long run. It’s not hard to set up a darkroom if your parents have a bathroom they’re willing to give up to you. If not, don’t fret, you can concentrate more fully on in camera work.

Pick up art books. Photos, painting, drawing, whatever, the principles are all the same. Look for compositions that you like. Learn things like the rule of thirds, then break them. Have fun, play with filters and shutter speeds and depth of field.

Have fun with it.

I second everything said above by FilmGeek (except I looove my ancient Olympus), plus, take a class or two. Your high school might offer a class, if not, check out your local community college, etc.

Unless your heart’s totally set on film, go digital. In little over a year, I’ve shot 1700 pictures on my digi. A couple weeks ago, I took pity on my 35mm SLR and decided to do a head-to-head. The SLR that cost me just shy of $1000 a few years back lost badly to film.

Not saying that the camera itself is bad, but regular film and regular get-it-back-two-days-later processing fared rather badly against 4x6" unprocessed prints off my 3.2megapixel digicam. Of course, the situation would be different if I wanted a 16x20" blowup of an image. But for plain ol’ taking pictures, digital won.

The money I also saved on not buying 50-70 rolls of film and processing for them all added up to the point I could have bought a semi-pro digital SLR and still saved money.

The point is, with digital, you’re not feeling inhibited about the price of photos each time you press the shutter. Keep snapping away and refine your skills as you go.

Likewise, don’t go overboard on your first camera. If you get the super-deluxe model that does everything including handing you a tissue when you sneeze, you’ll probably wind up being afraid to use it, lest you break it. $300 will get you a very good “starter” digital camera. If at all possible, get your hands on them before buying one. You may find that the model that sounds great is awkward in your hands, or the menus are horrid. So, go around and pick 'em up and play with them - explore the menus, take some shots and just see what it feels like. There always seems to be at least one “special edition” magazine at the supermarket that’s little more than camera reviews. Grab one and read through - if a review says the lens is flimsy, or the menus are nasty, they probably are. Reviews are useful, but don’t put 100% of your purchase decision on them.

If you’re looking for a book on how to take better pictures, I’ll leave that to you. Everyone responds differently to different authors’ styles. If you like the “Dummies” books, have a look at Digital Photography: All-in-One Desk Reference for Dummies

I’d have to agree with gotpasswords here. I just got a Canon A70 (out of production, but the current A75 is almost the same camera), and it’s great for all sorts of different photos, from surprisingly good macros to fairly fast action shots…and it’s their starter model! With a lot of manual control options, and the ability to take add-on 52mm filters and lenses…

but

also what FilmGeek said - try everything, read everything…I’ve had mine for less than a month, and I’m already doing cool things like photographing moving light with a slow shutter speed…great fun. I can’t wait to try out infrared photography as soon as I’ve saved up for a tripod and filters.

That’s where digital’s the win - you can take literally thousands of shots, and delete the ones you don’t like - without spending a cent on extra consumables.

I was pretty much decided on digital already, but wasn’t sure if there was any sort of stigma attached to using one.

FilmGeek: I’m sorry if I was unclear, but I’m asking now so that by the time I depart, I’ll have a little more skill than the usual disposable camera-toting tourist. :o

By ‘formal’ photography, I meant everything beyond ‘point and click.’ :stuck_out_tongue: Barring any other book recommendations, I suppose I’ll give ‘Photography for Dummies’ a readthrough. :smack:

Thanks a lot. :slight_smile:

Sigh. Digital does make more sense…

But it’s not film! (whiiiiiiiiiine)

Go to your local used bookstore and haunt the art and photography section for a while. Pick up anything with camera or photo in the title. You’ll get to see very quickly what is good and what isn’t.

Man, I gotta start reading those OPs a bit more carefully.

I misread this one as:

Seriously caught my attention with that one, especially considering the number of replies you’d already gotten. Well, I’m kinda disappointed, not that I’m uninterested in photography, it’s just that the other topic would have been a very interesting read, perhaps!

Learn how to use Adobe Photoshop. (If budget is a concern, get Photoshop Elements. Hey—it might come bundled with your camera! Who knows?) Learn it well. Whether you go digital (which is sounds like you are) or film emulsion, you need to learn Photoshop.

I’ve been taking photos for umpteen years now. I am not professional; I don’t think I take photos that are that great. (However, I have an art background so I guess that rubs off on my photography.) Photoshop is the single most wonderful thing to happen to me, photography-wise. I can fix up underdeveloped or overdeveloped photos, retouch out dust spots, get rid of compositionally offensive elements, crop the picture for better composition, etc., and it’s all so easy.

When you feel like you are really getting some nice photos (this might be this year, next year, or 5 years from now), start a web site showing off your photography. Learn how to get your site listed high in the search engines (I got a book that helped me with this). Make it clear that your photographs are available for publication and sale. Eventually, someone might use your photographs and pay you. This has happened to me several times. I’m just an “average” photographer (though I take a lot of Yosemite photos, so how can I go wrong? ;)) but because I have a decent site, I will sell photos now and then.

In my case, I have a jillion negatives and slides, and a nice consumer-level scanner (Epson Perfection 3200). This scanner can make digital files that are approx. 40 MB at the highest setting (scanning a negative or slide). So far with all the photos I’ve sold (or rather, I’ve sold the rights to publish the photos, not the photos themselves) the client has required a digital file of 40-50 MB. They require big ol’ files—very high resolution. Just an FYI.

After asking around a bit, I’ve gotten many FilmGeek-like comments on digital photography. If I can learn analog and digital, sure. My dad inquired about whether I’d be interested in setting up a darkroom awhile ago, and I might take him up on it. However, while away, I want to be able to shoot without imagining the sound of my piggy bank being syphoned.

Though it’s not like a new camera, even a starter one, will come cheap anyway. :smack:

Lots of good suggestions here, from people much more experienced than I. I’ll go against the grain a little, though, and try to steer you away from digital. I’ve been resisting the urge to move to digital myself, as I just can’t get over the feeling that it’s cheating somehow. :wink:

Finding a class in your school or in the community that will introduce you to basic camera mechanics, and give you some development and printing experience will probably be quite an eye opener. For me, half the fun in photography is the process. Composing the image in the viewfinder, clicking away, and then having to wait hours, days, or even months can really help discipline your process. Learning how to adjust your film development for grain, contrast, etc makes you think about the lighting before opening the shutter. Finding out after you examine the negatives that the shots you thought would turn out best were out of focus is aggravating, but next time you’ll check the focus first, and eventually you’ll stop forgetting.

Digital is the coming age in photography, but sticking with film while learning the basics will help you avoid the bad habit of a shoot-and-delete mentality.

If price is a big concern, film bodies are still much cheaper than digital bodies. If you want to really learn the mechanics behind photography, rather than just the composition, you’re probably going to want something more advanced than a point-and-shoot digital camera. You’ll want something that lets you set the aperture and shutter speed. You’ll also be missing something down the road if you don’t get used to thinking about different focal lengths and how they change the image, so you’ll probably want something with interchangeable lenses. The standard camera type that offers these features is SLR. An entry level film SLR body will cost $200-$500 (for AF), where an entry level digital SLR body is $800-$1500. Most lenses that work on a film SLR will work on the same make of digital SLR, so you can always add a second, digital body when you are ready.

Now, the best way to get good at photography is to take many, many pictures. Eventually you’ll figure out how to capture your mental image of a scene. Looking at other peoples photos (or any art, really) will help you figure it out faster, but there’s no replacement for experience. If digital will enable you to gain the experience, and the hassle of film would hold you back, then go digital. You’ll be missing something, though, and won’t be able to relate when us old fogies are sitting around talking about our favorite emulsions.

You might want to check out www.photo.net. The forums there contain a lot of good information, and you might even be able to pick up your equipment on the cheap from their classifieds.

– On preview, I see you brought up the darkroom, and also the media cost. You can get all the necessary equipment for developing your own B&W film for well under $100, and with a changing bag you don’t even need a dark room. If you want to set up a B&W darkroom, you can do so rather inexpensively also (a quick guess would be $100-$200). Once you’re set up for this, it becomes much cheaper to use film than if you had to take it to a lab. Of course, this is if you like B&W. As for the piggy bank draining on every shot, it’s not all that lopsided toward digital. Developing myself, I figure I spend about $3 per 36 exposures. Compare this to hard drive, CD, and digital media prices and you’ll find you can take and archive a lot of photos before you break even on digital.

GL, and have fun. It’s a great hobby, and some people are even lucky enough to be making money at it.