You don’t technically sign into just Gmail anymore (if you ever did in the first place); you sign into your Google account (or, in this case, your stepfather’s Google account), and then, when you open up Gmail, you’re already logged in.
And that’s why Gmail doesn’t have its own login page.
When you first set up that account for him, I suspect that Gmail operated under its own login system; at some point, Google integrated it (along with Youtube, etc.) into a unified login across all Google products.
And, yeah, they aren’t making it easy.
My wife has somehow managed to create two different Google accounts for herself (one that she created when she wanted to subscribe to stuff on Youtube, not realizing that it wasn’t just a Youtube account). Now, juggling back and forth between her two accounts is a confusing pain in the ass.
I’d like to have a free email address of my own. A lot of people use gmail. But I don’t want to use gmail if I can’t create an account and log into it.
Here’s a “help” page from Google on the topic, which suggests that, without the old phone number, a “known computer,” account creation date, etc., you may be stuck. The expert who replied in that thread flat-out said, “not all accounts can be recovered.”
Ahh, I think I understand – you’re now hesitant to set up a Google/Gmail account, because you’re now skeptical that you’d be able to log back into it?
If you’re starting from scratch, it should not be difficult to set up a Google account (yes, you will likely need a smartphone to do this), and thus, access Gmail.
I’ve been using Gmail for ten years, and personally, have never had a problem logging into Gmail – using my Google account credentials – across different computers, different web browsers, and several different smartphones (though all with the same number).
The issue, I think, is that Google is particularly fussy about account recovery, if you don’t know your old login information, or if you don’t have access to the cell phone number that you used when you created/last used the account. If that fussiness (a.k.a. their security protocol) doesn’t make you happy, then they aren’t the email service for you, unfortuantely.
20+ years ago. I can’t remember the last time I accessed it. I had the same problem logging in before.
Yes. I don’t have confidence I can log into an account I might set up. My current email address (the one I use for ‘everything’) was set up in the '90s. They changed things, so that I no longer have a webpage. I’m basically paying $35/month for an email address. I’t like to have free email (in addition to my Yahoo account), but gmail makes me think that it’s not reliable.
I really don’t understand why you think if you create a new account today you won’t be able to log into. All the info you need for it will be current so why would you not know what it is?
I’ve had Gmail for 20+ years, I have never once had an issue.
What it looks like, from some googling (sorry) I just did, is that, in late 2021, Google changed how Gmail logins worked. From that point forward, you could not log into Gmail with just a user name and password – if you are attempting to log in on a new computer, or re-log in after a longish absence, you now pretty much need a smartphone to do two-factor authentication.
Because your late stepfather’s account is so old, and never had the contact phone number updated – so that, when they went to 2FA for login in 2021, it was a live phone number – that account is stuck now.
As long as you have a smartphone, and follow their instructions as you initially set up a new Google account, you would very likely be just fine, and would not run into any of the issues you’re having in dealing with your stepfather’s Gmail account.
That said, it’d be incumbent on you to keep your cell phone number on your Google account up-to-date, in case you ever do change numbers. You may or may not find that to be an acceptable trade-off for free email.
But you said you don’t know the phone number associated with that account and that’s why you can’t log in. If you set up a new account and use a current number, what is the issue?
He already answered that when I asked him exactly that – the issues that he’s having recovering his stepfather’s old Gmail account are damaging his overall confidence in Gmail.