I don’t disagree. But, as we discussed earlier in this thread, compared to pretty much any other email service, Gmail is a pain in the ass, security-wise, (a) Google has become a pain in the ass, security-wise, and (b) Gmail is no longer a stand-alone email service, but is integrated into your general Google account.
Based on a recommendation earlier in this thread, I set up a Proton Mail account and can testify that took about five minutes.
Is it possible you have some computer virus that’s messing with you? Is anything else acting weird?
Just gmail.
That’s too bad the Gmail is flaky for you.
My wife’s company uses Macs and Gmail and has had no problems at all. I’ve used Gmail on Windows forever without any issues.
For the record, in the modern information environment, this is, broadly speaking, a good thing. Any system that’s easy to log into is almost certainly easy to hack. I agree that gmail makes the user jump through some extra hoops, some of which are, I admit, less about best-practice security standards and more about feeding their voracious data-collation machine. I also agree that if security is your priority, there are much better options. But if you limit the field to the free large-scale services, gmail is somewhat better than, say, yahoo mail or Microsoft’s offerings on the security front.
TLDR – being “a pain in the ass, security-wise” is a net positive on the modern internet.
Yeah, i have enough stuff linked to my Gmail that i appreciate their security hoops, even if they are sometimes annoying to jump through. Same with my primary (non-Gmail) email provider, which has also gotten fussy about how you access it.
I don’t disagree, but as the OP’s struggles have shown, Google’s security protocols – which, AFAICT, are considerably more stringent than most consumer-facing web tools – can make doing certain things more difficult, if not impossible, particularly for a user who isn’t accustomed to them, or just wants to use their email service.
Well, there’s rhe problem.
“Google services” is a bundle deal, even if you don’t want 99% of the bundle, and Alphabet is going to design the security to encompass the entire bundle. Too bad if that makes it overblown for just the little part you want to use.
After all, as far as Google is concerned, those “extra services” are critical offerings that they’re sure you’ll come around to using and eventually structuring your life around. It’s just a matter of time (and subtle coercion).
Some of those extra services are hugely valuable, honestly.
I agree, but clearly many folks do not.
Google’s service offerings grew around their initial core of search and free email, but some don’t have any use for those extended services, or distrust Google too much to start using more Google than they do now.
But Google’s business model depends on their full portfolio becoming a part of your daily life, and they’re never going to accept a user’s desire pare it down to just (for instance) GMail. There will be no reduced tailored service offering with lighter security. There will always be “the services a user will use right now” and “the services a user will eventually use, even if they think they won’t.”
I really don’t think this a gmail problem so much as something else on your end, like others have been saying. The litany of problems you’re running into is head scratchingly bizarre. I just type “gmail.com” in my browser and I’m straight into gmail every time, as long as I’m logged into Google, which I am about 99.9% of the time. I don’t even remember the last time I typed a password. If I did, it was an auto saved one, as I don’t even know my Google password off hand. (Yeah, I even just tried it now on my phone where I rarely use it, and my emails just popped up without having to do anything else.)
It seems the issue was History.