I did a google search, but it gets confused with ‘bread’ toast and ‘salute’ toast. I have a good friends’ birthday party tomorrow, and I want to give her a nice toast…but would like to do a traditional one, or at least use that as a base to work from.
Does anyone have a good reference?
A quick search at about.com using keyword toastmaster produced over 100 results.
hajario
September 8, 2001, 5:35am
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This site is the faq for bulldogs on the Usenet dog group, rec.pets.dogs. By the way, they say that there is no such thing as an “English” bulldog. There are “bulldogs” and “French bulldogs.”
Here is the relevant part of that faq:
Q13. Why are they often born by Caesarean section?
A13. As a breed, they have large heads and small hips and therefore small birth canals. Well, that’s the commonly held belief which is probably just a myth.
Here are some other reasons for C-sections:
Bulldog Bitches, due to their high tolerance for pain, often ignore nature’s signals to “Push” the puppies out. Any dog can take a long time to deliver an entire litter of puppies. An hour or more between pups is not unusual, and if the litter is large, the delivery time can last 8 or more hours. Bulldogs will just forget it, and go to sleep.
Secondly, Bulldogs have a higher than normal record of producing “Anasarca” puppies. These are fetuses that do not drain fluid in a normal manner, and end up as water-filled puppies, often weighing two to three times what a normal pup weighs. They are so large that they will not fit through the pelvic opening in the birth canal. If this is one of the first puppies in line to be delivered, none hind it will get out. Until the availablility of ultra sound, there was no way of predicting if the bitch had one of these in-side her. Even with ultrasound, it is difficult. A number of years ago, U of Michigan conducted a study trying to determine what caused this problem (it also happens with human babies). Ultra sound was used to try to determine when the water problem developed during the gestation period. No predictable patterns were discerned. The problem seemed to be related to a zero thyroid function in the fetus. Generally, these pups do not live more than a few minutes, even born through C-Sections.
So the C-Section is routinely used to avoid having to do one on an emergency basis, whether due to an Anasarca pup, or just to make sure that all have been delivered naturally… how do you know how many are there? The high value of a bulldog puppy makes it cost effective to do the C-section rather than risk loosing even one puppy.
Anasarca may be hereditary, but after several years of study supported by the Morris Animal Foundation, so familial connects were found. Repeat breedings of the same sire and dam did not produce Anasarca puppies.
Here are some arguments against C-sections:
Not accepting the puppies is the down side of C-sections. The mothers internal hormones are not yet in action, and she doesn’t know that she has had puppies. Sometimes there may be near disasters in the first 48 hours. A hormone shot can be given that brings the milk in and starts the maternal instinct going. The length of time between birth and acceptance depends on when, in the gestation period the C-section was performed.
As you can see, discussing whether or not it is right or wrong to breed dogs which are often born in this manner is good flame bait.
Haj
hajario
September 8, 2001, 5:36am
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Haj **
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Aw, hell. Obviously I posted to the wrong question.
Haj
Few seem relavent, though. Toastmasters is an organization for practicing public speaking, no?
I dunno, Haj. That seems a little wordy for a birthday party. Maybe for a wedding…
sethdallob: A Google search on the exact phrase “birthday toasts” might get more results along the lines of what you’re looking for.
For fucks sake seth, did you even follow my instructions?
Go to. About.Com . Type in toastmaster in their search engine and veiw the results.
And I’ll be dammed if I ever help your ass again.
*Originally posted by EvilGhandi *
**For fucks sake seth, did you even follow my instructions?
Go to. About.Com . Type in toastmaster in their search engine and veiw the results.
And I’ll be dammed if I ever help your ass again. **
I did follow your instructions, and found few toasts worthy of note for a friends’ birthday (most were raunchy irish drinking toasts). I don’t think you’ve ever helped me before, and quite frankly, with your attitude, I doubt many people would.
I realize that this post was OT but felt compelled to respond to his harsh language.
That sort of language, and that sort of tone, is not appropriate here. Abuse of a fellow member is never appropriate in General Questions, even when they fail to heed your advice. Don’t do it again.
bibliophage
moderator GQ
By the way, Gandhi didn’t spell his name Ghandi.
bigneck
September 9, 2001, 3:13am
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What do you mean by “tarditional” toast? What do yuo want to say about your friend? Do you want elements of humor?