How do techno-phobic people make your life hell?

One of my boss’s responsibilities is communicating with customers via email. Since she is computer phobic, she drafted me to print out email addressed to her and give her the printouts. She then writes out responses longhand and gives the handwritten responses back to me to transcribe into Outlook.

We go through this ritual several times per day. Sometimes, I have to go up front just to type in the words “Okay, thanks”.

Since my workload is already heavy without these distractions, the owner hired a telephone receptionist who claimed to have computer experience. Today, I got a page to come up front. The new employee was sitting in front of the computer but didn’t know how to turn it on. My heart sank, but I explained that it’s the big button on the front of the computer, and went back to work.

15 minutes later, the new “computer operator” called on the intercom asking how to get into the Internet.

“It’s the icon that looks like a lowercase ‘e’. It says ‘Internet Explorer’ under it”. (15 second pause. )

“I don’t see anything like that… “

“It’s right on the desktop”

I then hear her laugh and tell my boss that she uses America Online at home.

I go up front and start giving her a lesson on using IE, including how to create a UPS shipping label. In the middle of her lesson however, she decides she needs to go outside to have a smoke.

I died a little death knowing that I’ll continue to be transcribing email, printing UPS labels, and ordering supplies for the foreseeable future.

I do freelance work for a woman who runs a home-based embroidery business, and needs me to do artwork when necessary. A few months ago, I sent her eight small logos in a Zip file and emailed it. The next morning she calls me on my cell phone and chews me out because she spent all morning trying to figure out how to open the Zip file.

Rather than waste my cell minutes trying to explain the intricacies of Zip files, I drve to her house and went through it step by step (“Just double click on the file. See how easy it is to open a Zip file?..”). I had her try, guiding her through again. No problem, so I thought. Ever since then however, she appends every request for work with “PLEASE DON’T SEND IN ZIP FORMAT. SEND EACH ONE INDIVIDUALLY”. :rolleyes:
How do computer-phobes and neophytes make your life more difficult? Specifically, how do they use up large chunks of your time, not part of your normal job (doing tech support for a living doesn’t count).

I wish that the two big ones in my life were technophobic. No, they insist that they know what they are doing, yet can’t run Outlook, copy and paste cells in Excel, or understand the wizardy behind such innovations.

Well, I can’t say she makes my life hell because she’s my mom and I love her. But my mother knows zero about technology and is always asking me to solve problems with her computer, fax machine, cell phone, etc. I am in no way a technological expert myself, but she thinks I am. This is the same woman who has been known to call me when she doesn’t know how to spell a word.

When my mom got her new computer and printer, she called me in a panic because she couldn’t get the printer to work. She claimed to have installed everything according to the directions. So I agreed to drive over.

I tried to print and she was right, it didn’t work. I re-installed the printer and tried again. Still nothing. By this time I was frustrated, and decided that I would go through the instruction booklet step by step (which my mother claimed to have already done). I first checked to make sure the printer was plugged in. It was, thank goodness. I got to the directions about putting in the printer cartridge. I pulled the cartridge out. The directions said “remove protective strip from cartridge.” At which I point I discovered this was the step my mom had missed.

I gave her an, “Oh, for crying in the night, mother,” she fed me cookies, and the world was right again.

All of my office computer’s are the same. I work with someone who will only use the main computer. If someone else is on the main computer, he makes me pull the same thing out of another computer. I asked him why once, and his response was “I don’t know how to use that computer.” :rolleyes:

When I send my boss an email with attachments, he calls me so that I can talk him through opening the attachments.

“Put your cursor over the attachment. Now right click. See where it says ‘open’? Click there.” Long pause. “Did it open?”

“Uh — yeah! Hey – that’s cool!”

And we go through this every time I send him an email with attachments.

Now he also calls me when anything goes wrong with his computer. Because unlike our IT people, I have to answer the phone when he calls.

I work in finance in high tech.

The CEO of the start-up I worked for a few years ago was like the Man Who Hated Machines in the old Twilight Zone episode. Within a year, he went through 6 laptops.

He could not send out email without accidentally copying people who should not have been included in the distribution. On quite a few occassions, this resulted in deep intervention by the IT group to “retrieve” the offending emails. It didn’t help that he would get online after several martinis late at night.

He also could not fill out an Excel template for his expense reports to save his life. Every month, he would rush into my office in a panic with his Amex bill which was past due, a pile of receipts and a print out of his expense report with everything completely screwed up. After a few of these drills, I admitted defeat. He was congenitally computer illiterate. I had one of the accounting staff prepare his expense report for him.

Every time co-worker asks me how to add someone to his address book and how to add and remove people from his Outlook mailing list, I take the time to show and explain, step by step and try to make sure he understands what we’re doing. Three years on, I’m still going through this ritual.

The Melbourne-based IT department are so frustrated with this individual calling to ask the most basic and ridiculous questions that they instructed our office that all IT calls were to go through me because I can get through all the basic stuff. Despite that, he still calls them direct. They usually call me and ask me to step him through it, so all he’s doing is wasting two long distance phone calls and increasing the amount of time it takes to fix his problem. Let me just add here that this guy considers me his best friend in the office and always talks about how much he admires my computer skills and how smart I am. It’s not a personality clash that stops him coming to me for help - he always claims he just “doesn’t like to bother me”… despite the fact that I complain continually that I don’t have enough to do and that I’m desperate for extra work (and that I get sent in to fix it in the end anyway). :confused:

Oh yeah, and he can’t tell the difference between the phone ringing in his office or in our manager’s office. He always intercepts our manager’s calls because he misses the subtle clues… the lights that indicate the call is for the manager, and the fact that the ringing is coming from next door, not beside his elbow. In fact, he doesn’t understand the phone system at all despite using it daily for the last two years. In a related issue, when he’s calling the office from his mobile (cell) phone, he’ll call the mobile (cell) phone of the person he wants to speak to even though we each have a phone on our desks and we don’t get good reception in the office. It’s not like the rest of us ever have to leave the office, we’re always there. I think he doesn’t understand how to dial the main office number from his phone so he just uses speed dial, and he only has our mobile numbers saved.

Now I’m started on him, I can’t stop. Last time our supervisor went away on holidays, he handed the responsibility of keying in the manual dockets to co-worker, made sure he understood what he had to do. Co-worker comes to me after about three or four days complaining that he can’t sign off the manual docket because Melbourne haven’t entered it. The fact that the only copy of the docket is sitting on his desk waiting to be sent to Melbourne didn’t trigger any sort of alarm bells for him. The training that our supervisor had given him mere days early had vaporised, and I had to run him through it all over again. I could tell that he still didn’t get it. When our supervisor got back, it took him several days to patch the errors that co-worker had added to the system over the manual docket issue.

My mother is the other IT nightmare in my life though she’s not as bad as my co-worker. It’s not that I mind sitting with her and helping her learn how to do things, it’s the 15 minute pep talk I have to give before hand that bothers me. You CAN do it Mum, I promise you can. It’s very easy and you’re very smart and you’ll have no problems picking it up. No, no, don’t say that, you’ve been doing so well on the computer and I’m so proud of you and you can do it and you should never think otherwise. No Mum, it’s not just easy for me. It’s really truly easy for anyone, it’s very basic stuff. Please can we just get to the part where I demonstrate how friggin easy it is because I’m getting a headache now and I’m so tired of hearing about how you can’t do it when you haven’t even seen it done to know that it’s too tricky. Next time can we just pretend we’ve already had this part of the conversation because I feel like I’m trapped in Groundhog Day, living this dialogue every freaking time you decide that you want to learn a new computer skill.

It’s not just Mum, most technophobes do it. If I could just teach, I’d be happy. The ego-stroking prior to the lesson is the part I hate most about having a little knowledge about computers.

My mom is like that too! Except not just with computers, with everyfreakingthing! She will ask me to help her buy new clothes (b/c she has not fashion sense), or google something, or open an attachment, or use a new kitchen appliance, or play a new game…and then throw up her hands and give up in dispair becuase she doesn’t instantly understand what to do. New things do not make her happy. Change does not make her happy. She would rather use a typewriter than a computer because that’s how she’s always done it an it has always worked just fine for her! Gah! She honestly can’t be open enough to new stuff to see how a computer is 10^[sup]65[/sup] better than a typewriter. It drives me crazy! She could learn new things becuase she is smart, but she has convinced herself she is dumb and will give up learning a new thing if it is even slightly hard to grasp. Grrrrr.

But she’s my mom, so I love her. Even though half the time I have to fight to control the fist of death.

And then there’s the ex in-law Grandma who would wait until someone came over and have them change her lightbulbs because she didn’t “understand all that electricity stuff”. She was cute and happy and a wonderful cook, so no one ever minded.

My advisor has used computers all his adult life. (He has three large boxes of punch cards taking up space in our workroom that I’m not allowed to throw away.) He has very deep, detailed knowledge about certain things, but he’s just not so good at keeping up with new advancements.

E.g. rlogin, ssh, etc.

He’ll say things like, “I’ll be going out to JPL next week, so I won’t be able to check my e-mail.”

For anyone who doesn’t instantly recognize that acronym, it’s JET PROPULSION LABORATORIES.

Do you think it’s possible that somewhere at JET PROPULSION LABORATORIES there might be a computer that he could borrow a terminal and log in to his Solaris machine? Hmmm? Maybe, just possibly?

Not to mention that the department has webmail that you can read from any computer with a web browser.

Not that I’ve taken the time to explain this to him, since usually I’m happy to have him off my back for the week. I’m just sayin’, is all.

Also, he is completely in awe of my ability to type search terms into Google. “Say, Podkayne,” he’ll say, “Do you happen to remember the V magnitude of Canopus?” No, I say, but I’ll look it up. “Oh, do you have the Astronomical Almanac in here?” Nooooo, but I do have a computer with an internet connection and it strikes me that maybe somebody, somewhere might have posted the visual magnitude of the second brightest star in the sky.

Similar mom experience. My mom once called up and said she couldn’t get the CD-ROM game to work. I drive the 1/2 hour to her house. Open the CD drive, flip the CD over, close the drive and walk out of the house. She took me out to dinner the next week.

Wow, Baraqiyal, you just decribed my boss. She is insane. We (I) have actually typed, “Ok, thanks” for her in an e-mail response. Several times daily.

I am NOT making this up – she refuses to use a mouse because, so she claims, that it hurts her finger to click… due to a “freak college injury” (she’s 52 now). It is insulting to my intelligence… Once I asked her, “how do you open door knobs, or do your hair!” and she gave me a look of disgust and walked away, actually not speaking to me for a few days after that.

Yes, I’m trying to find a new/better job.

Another mom story:

If you start talking about computers with my mom, she just shuts down. I’ll say something like, “I’m going to send you an attachment mom, so check your e-mail.” Her response, “I…I…I just don’t know how to open attachments. They never work. I can’t do it!” (Imagine a southern belle falling into a swoon here)

I have shown her how to open them a dozen times and have written out countless step-by-step instructions on how to use e-mail, read attachments, etc., but if you so much as mention “computer,” it’s like the world just stops.

Well… computer-related…

At the plant I used to work at, I ran a huge robot, which dumped cans onto a belt, sorted them, sent them through a machine which checked the cans with cameras (sending data to a computer inside to tell if the can was a defect or not), the cans came out of that on another belt, were stacked in fives, swept onto another belt by a huge arm, and at the end of that belt, a huge robot “claw” would pick them up 25 or 50 at a time (depending on what I set it at), put the cans into boxes (which were also made by the machine), the box then trundled onto another belt, had hot (HOT!) glue shot onto the flaps, the lids pressed down, then finally, at the end of the line, a jet printer sprayed the code of the cans in ink on a discreet place on the box, and it ended up on one of those steel roller belts outside, where there was a tallyperson waiting - someone who piled the boxes onto a pallet.

Simple, yes? :wink: Well, actually, it’s not that hard. You had to be aware at all times of what was happening on the machine, and the place you would stand most often was in front of a little computer screen, which literally tells you exactly what is going wrong (if anything at all), where it’s going wrong, and off you go to fix it. A machine like that will not run smoothly all the time, but with some tweaking, you can make it run quite efficiently.

I had to train a lady to use one of these machines once. I don’t know why. She was scared of the beast. Well, I was there to cure her ignorance and fear… lucky, lucky me.

She kept insisting she knew nothing about computers (then why did you put your name in for this job specifically, lady, when you knew it was a huge computer…?) So I did my best. I told her it was very simple, and anything that went wrong would be shown to you on the little screen, all I needed to do was teach her what those things meant, and she would be fine. Right? Oh, no.

She would go and try to set the speed against everything I taught her, causing “crashes” (the thing would pile up, overfill, the cans would get tipped forward and the robot arm would CRASH into a pile of five cans per “finger”… and let me tell you, one of those steel fingers would rip through a stack of five steel cans like a hot knife through butter). I’d show her, this means it’s too fast. Then she’d set it too slow, so it would only put out one case every five minutes or so (when you should be getting something like a dozen per minute on 25s…) She didn’t understand “happy medium”. She would take my instructions as critisism, and push buttons… well, just to spite me, it seems. I was never mean or nasty to her, I’d just say look, when you do A, B happens. That’s the great thing about computers, it’s all very logical and simple. You tell it what to do, and it does it. She would always use the excuse that it was a computer, so it was confusing. I tried using several analogies (pretend the machine is like a car, etc) to make the computer thing seem less threatening, but she kept dwelling on it. I think she wanted to be confused. Or at least she enjoyed being confused.

None of this was even that bad, just a little messy and counterproductive, but that could eventually be remedied, right? Just have patience… the supervisors say she can do it, so just do it.

When you needed to go inside to fix something in “the cage” (which contained the robot arm, it was in a cage because it is dangerous to get too close to it while it is working or not in E-Stop) you must, must, must, it is drilled into our heads from day one, hit that big, giant, RED, Emergency-Stop Button. It is all important. It is Life Or Death. Or at the very least Life Or Limb. There are several E-Stops all over the machine, just in case you forget. There are signs hung all over the machine, in huge font, that say “Don’t forget the E-Stop!”, just in case you forget. Everytime I began training this lady, every single day, I’d begin with “Show me where all the E-Stops on this machine are.” I’d then make her use them and send her into the cage. Big red buttons. Push 'em in, pull 'em out when you’re done and ready to go. Right beside the main controls.

Have I stressed this enough?

Every. single. day. This woman would give me a heart attack. She wouldn’t look at her screen to find out what was wrong if I wasn’t beside her, holding her hand. The machine would stop… she’d look around, confused, then swing the cage door open and stick her hands under that robot arm. Guess what? No E-Stop. I quite literally have saved her life/arm on too many occasions to account for, over a dozen times while I was assigned to do a different job, because the supervisors thought she was “ready to do this alone.” Mind you, I wasn’t the only operator who trained this woman. There were three robots there, and three of us who worked them. We all three attempted training her, and we each told the supervisors she was not ready, and desperately needed more training. They didn’t seem to hear us.

I had far, far too many moments, where I’d be on the other side of a door, look in, only to see this lady looking confused, then swing open that damn cage door. I’d drop everything I was doing, and time would go in slow motion, and I’d hear myself screaming “NOOOOOOOOOOOO!”, I’d fly through the air, hand outstretched, aiming for that big red button. Then time would go back to normal, I’d be standing there, breathing heavily, cold sweat, the robot fingers just centimetres from this lady’s hand, and she’d look at me, grin the flakiest grin I’ve ever seen, and say “Oh! Thanks!”

Lady. You have no idea.

We did eventually convince the supervisors that she was a danger to herself and others (she managed to swing the robot arm outside of the cage door on several occasions, and there’s a large dent on the opposite side of the cage where the beast apparently tried to break through “on it’s own” (her words). We just got one of the supervisors to, you know, supervise her, and they saw what was happening and took her off of it).

Ah, well. If anyone ever gets a finger in their can of sardines, it probably just means they put her back on.

Ha, all the Mom stories remind me of the many times I’ve tried to talk my Mom through doing something on the computer, over the phone.

A few weeks ago I had to talk her through reformatting and reinstalling Windows, and reinstalling all her apps. Sweet lord almighty. NOT FUN. It took several minutes just to figure out why she couldn’t put a floppy disk into the drive! (She was putting into the Zip drive, which I forget she had on her computer). Not being there, I couldn’t see. Very difficult.

She is learning, though. I’m actually quite proud of how much she’s picked up.

We, apparently, work for the same person. I’ve decided that it ultimately works to my benefit as he’s awfully impressed with my research skills (go google!) and he fails to see what analysis can be automated and what really needs to be done by brute force (which means he tends to assume it’ll take a week to do something that can be done with an hour of programming and a day of the computer crunching for me).

But man, I dread hearing that he’s writing a grant as I know it’ll be a long day helping him with NSF fastlane.

I know a lot of people like this.

My mom too. She’s long distance, and I frequently get phone calls because nothing on her computer works and maybe it has something to do with deleting some “unnecessary.” And why isn’t VirusScan working? Why is the printer seizing up? Why the heck does she think I will know the solutions to these problems?

And she’s always asking me to do research (use Google). I understand that it will take much longer for her to do it (connecting at an average speed of 24,000 bps because she’s in the wilderness with crappy phone lines and no options), but she seems amazed that I can find information. I bookmarked Google last time I was home. I showed her how to use it. Didn’t seem to sink in.

She just got a digital camera. Can’t wait to start getting calls about that.

There’s also the converse: people completely conversant with the wonders of Google but who will ask me shit that they could look up in the dictionary that’s not a metre away from them.

Mentioning no names. :slight_smile:

50% of my co-workers seem to be convinced that a digital image file, regardless of the subject, is a “jay peg”- that the terms are interchangeable. Whether graphic, text, map, or any of the other myriad types of images with solid regions of color, they “save it as a jay peg”. We have hundreds of these unusable images on our server. Often the original source file is long gone and we have to recreate the image in order to use it for anything.