Uh, sorry, but I always put men in the “rapist” or “nice non-rapist” category. SOMETHING IS CLEARLY WRONG WITH YOU IF YOU DON’T.
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Okay now I’m DEFINITELY being wooshed. No question about that. Either that or Mr. Zealot over here lives up to and waaaaaay beyond his username.
If anyone refuses to shake my hand, it’s over. You have lost my respect - but that’s okay. Because you were never going to have any respect for me anyways.
No, that’s fine, because everyone knows that men never get raped. Which is why it’s okay for the woman to reach out and shake the man’s hand without being a rapist.
Statistically which gender is more likely to be raped though. In my life I’ve learned many useful clues to human character. The handshake example is one of them. I hope at least some of the men who I’ve encountered who stick their hands out unwelcomed at women are not rapists. However, I have observed this ALL the men I have encountered who were rapist/sexual predators always tried to force women to shake their hands. It’s like that is the first step when they are sizing up potential victims. Likewise all the men I have ever known that respected women and could be trusted withwomen (any women under any circumstances) always waited for a woman to make the first move in any sort of physical contact. They never presumed anything gave them the right to touch a woman other than her permission.
I have known quite of few Asian and Asian American businessmen who have a negative view of handshaking. Why shouldn’t their right to live according to their standards of acceptable public behavior be respected? Seriously, not getting to touch someone is not going to kill you. Putting your hands on someone’s body without their permission should never be considered okay.
Offering a handshake is not forcing anyone to be touched without their permission. If you want to refuse to shake my hand, that’s your right. If you think I’m a rapist for offering to shake hands, well, that’s also your right.
And then it’s my right to consider you a whackadoodle.
Unfortunately, there are plenty of men who actually do think like that. I would rather avoid such a person than take my chances with being able to successfully ward them off at a later time. Wouldn’t you?
Seriously, god almighty, I’m rather happy we’ve come to a time that women can shake hands just like men. Please don’t withhold a handshake because I am a frail dainty woman! If a woman is going to live in this world she is going to have to stand up and learn how to gently refuse a handshake if it is part of her religion. And on the contrary, I’ve found men who shake women’s hands without hesitation tend to be more respectful of women, and more inclined to treat them with respect.
I’ll look a man in the eyes and shake his hand firmly any day.
When I was working the front desk, I was told to greet walk-ins by standing, introducing myself and offering my hand. I quickly learned not to do that with men wearing yamakes or in typical Saudi garb. And if anyone refused my hand, I did not make an issue of it.
I once was at a sidewalk sale where a fundamentalist Christian church had set up a table with a man and woman. I was discussing the topic with the man and introduced myself, offering my hand. When he shook it, I said “I thought you followed the Bible, but you didn’t ask me if I was on my period!”
I noticed the woman’s face got brick red, and I thought she was going to die of embarassment. Then I noticed her whole body was shaking with repressed laughter. She had to get up and leave the table.
Amen. It IS true that there is an (outdated) rule of etiquette that men are not supposed to offer their hands to a lady first. But that was a social rule…women are in business now, on equal footing with men, and the rules have evolved accordingly.
Of course, if anyone, male or female, cannot shake hands for whatever reason, it’s their job to politely decline, without making the other person feel as though they had done something wrong. And it’s the offeree’s job to take that in stride, not be offended, and not insist upon it.
In Afghanistan, the local men would always wait for me to offer my hand first. If I didn’t, they made no attempt to shake hands with me even if they were shaking hands with other people present. I always did offer - I didn’t care if they thought I was a loose woman…
No, I don’t shake hands with men because it’s against my personal moral code to touch a man other than a husband or close relative. I have observed however that men who insist on trying to get women to shake their hands often have boundary issues and that it can be the first clue that a man is a sexual predator if he places his own personal need to have his hand touched (why hand touching is so important is completely bizarre to me) over the women’s right to body integrity. Quite honestly why is that such a mystery to you?
This is fine. No problems here. To each their own, and all that. **Sarahfeena **expressed it perfectly.
THIS is the part we all have a problem with. This is NOT fine. The two parts of your statement are completely unrelated to each other. Why is that such a mystery to you?
Most of us gals here see things like Anaamika, not like you. Your views are … alien to me.