As it should given that it wasn’t that long ago that just being gay, not even acting on it, was enough to prevent one from even considering being a teacher because it was common knowledge that all gay people were secret child molesters.
And exactly who’s fault is it that these children are allowed to be exposed to pornography?
I have to say. I really hate all the clever post editing in an attempt to further points. It’s getting really old. It’s smart aleck gamesmanship. So disturbing. Just say what you mean.
It’s IMHO not the Pit.
You don’t gotta call names and be ugly to make a point.
I don’t think you do.
Children nowadays,at very early ages can find what they want online. And do at an alarming rate. I’m around young children everyday. I’ve seen Mom grab the device and block stuff many times.
The world is bigger than it was when I was a child.
I’m not trying to make it sound like you are concerned about the remote possibility of a teacher having a gun. It’s clear that a teacher who shows her boobs is far more frightening to you than a teacher who owns implements of death and destruction, and in fact you are far from alone there; I think the vast majoriry of Americans would be more concerned about a teacher who films herself having sex than they would be about a teacher who films himself blowing off wad after wad (of ammunition, you perv) down at the range every weekend. Considering the vast amounts of harm caused by firearms every day, I find this deeply and grotesquely ironic; that’s why I echoed your language to present something I consider far more problematic than sex but which I’m sure you wouldn’t think twice about.
A teacher posting themselves shooting at the range, round after round would give me pause. I promise.
People who do that are clearly bragging about something else entirely. If they blurred their face, even more concern.
There’s your answer to that.
This teacher was not just posting sex(I’ve not seen it, I’m not saying I have) She was making a video, probably fake sex in an attempt to sell it. I presume it was pretty provocative to make it sell better. Otherwise why do it?
Kids don’t need to see that.
My opinion til ''of age".
I’m not completely naive. I know precocious teens will see it earlier.
Hopefully it’s not their teacher, parent, neighbor or other.
Such a sad world.
I know that wasn’t addressed to me and I’m trying to avoid getting drawn into this futile debate again, but JFC, talk about missing the point by a wide country mile! This is not about a teacher’s boobs!
Let me sum it up this way: the serious lapse in judgment that a teacher demonstrates by covertly engaging in an activity that said teacher bloody well knows both their employer and prevailing societal norms regard as disreputable, is not compatible with the values and ethical standards we rightfully expect of those to whom we entrust the welfare and education of our children. “Education” here means not just readin’, writin’, and 'rithmetic, but the inculcation by example of normative behaviours including honesty and integrity.
Yes, the values and ethical standards we rightfully expected of those to whom we entrusted the welfare and education of our children which have historically included miscegenation, being gay, and not being (the right kind of) Protestant.
Exposure to which is not good for children. This is common knowledge.
Oh good lord.
Creating homemade porn for money is not the same thing as being, gay, Jewish, black or any of that, at all.
It’s chosen.
Miscegenation, being an out LGBTQ person, and being the wrong kind of Protestant are all chosen.
I give up.
No one is arguing that it isn’t. The question is whether making this particular choice means you should be barred from education forever. Other than “I think it’s icky and I don’t want to normalize it for children*” you haven’t given any reason why this decision is disqualifying.
*incidentally “I think it’s icky and I don’t want to normalize it for children” is a pretty on point summary of my feelings about gun toting teachers. But I wouldn’t argue that we should ban all gun owners from the teaching profession, or even that it should be illegal for a teacher to work as an instructor at a gun range etc.
the view of far too many people about groups no one in this thread would agree should be prohibited from being teachers.
And that’s my/the problem.
I’ve said my piece.
This thread has played out.
IMHO
Should be locked.
IMHO.
The nice thing is, you can lock it for yourself just by unfollowing it. Deciding nobody else should be able to engage in it? Maybe we can make our own decisions about whether we want to, hmm?
The parallels between firing teachers for sex work, and firing them for other sexual/romantic behaviors, are extremely strong. People keep saying, “But it’s a CHOICE!” as if other sexual behaviors aren’t choices.
The difference between an identity and a choice isn’t relevant here, because in the past plenty of teachers were fired for behavioral choices–whether it was getting married, getting divorced, dating while single, or other behavioral choices. It was wrong then, and it’s wrong now.
The nonsense about “BUT SHE BLURRED HER FACE!!!” is indeed played out. If nobody ever tries again to pull that out as if it’s significant, the thread will definitely improve.
Moderating:
Please leave the modding to the moderators. This isn’t even your thread you’re asking to be closed.
Feel free to stop replying though, that you can decide on your own.
Parallels between the past and present expectations on educators behaviors are not the same.
What motivates some to think a career in k-12?education is perfectly complementary to a moonlighting gig producing explicit sexual content for sale. Would it be okay to advertise their OF page on their car that’s parked on campus? Oh but just the kids already experimenting with viewing porn will look that shit up? No peer pressure no gossip no disrespect going on there among students.
Like @Beckdawrek said, the teach should go FT on OF quit the day job leave it for another candidate.
No: that would be bringing it into school.
The difference you’re looking for is the Victor’s Virtue: it’s the difference between a fight for fair treatment that’s already been won, and a fight that’s ongoing. Of course it’s easy to side with the teacher fired for getting divorced: that fight is over, and the teachers won, so being on the right side is a no-cost virtue.
It’s what one chooses when the fight is ongoing that shows who a person really is–and what they likely would have chosen when those past battles were ongoing.