The laws that allow you to drop off a newborn child w/ at a hospital or firehouse within 72 hours of their birth w/out getting in trouble?
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Better than infantacide, I guess.
About sums up my feelings. It kind of chaps my hide that parents can abandon their child and not face any consequences… but the baby staying alive trumps any other consideration.
Yep, that’s pretty much how I feel too. Better this than another baby found in a Dumpster.
I’m going to WAG that people who need these laws were never going to be “parents” in the warm and fuzzy sense anyway . . . and that they are likely to [feel that they?] have no other options. For someone who can’t or won’t get all wrapped up in setting up an adoption, this is an easy and humane solution that probably often saves a life, in the literal and/or figurative sense of the word.
I’m all for it.
Ditto. I wish the parents of more of my current patients had been able to exercise this option. Waaaay too many had a childhood of horror.
It’s a good idea. In fact, I’m not even sure what the downside is. A missed chance to prosecute the parents? What good would that serve?
I guess there’s less pressure to avoid getting pregnant, if you know you can dump off your consequences more easily. But I’m guessing that the moral compass of those who would willingly abandon their baby is so far off that this sort of disincentive wouldn’t really work; it would only harm the babies. So that argument is a bit weak.
Can’t see any reason to oppose such laws. The child’s life is the important thing.
[jerk mode]
From the American Heritage Dictionary:
–de·bate n. 1. A discussion involving opposing points; an argument. 2. Deliberation; consideration: passed the motion with little debate. 3. A formal contest of argumentation in which two opposing teams defend and attack a given proposition. 4. Obsolete. Conflict; strife
I thought I’d supply a definition, since you seem unclear on the meaning of the term, diggleblop.
::tries to turn jerk mode off, discovers in horror that there is peanut butter smeared all over the console and the JM button is stuck in case, wanders off to kick a squirrel::
A baby isn’t the only consequence of pregnancy. You have to endure nausea, weight gain, stretch marks, backache and a myriad of other discomforts and that’s before the* labor*. I don’t think any woman just shrugs at that.
The way I see it, there are already enough shitty parents in the world without forcing people to keep kids they don’t want. “You’ve made your bed . . .” has its self-righteous pleasures, but what people forget is that they’re talking about lives.
This is my feeling on this subject. What could possibly be the downside, if a mother knows she can’t be a good parent to the child, and one of the other possible options is to leave the kid in a dumpster? To me, it’s like an informal way of giving the child up for adoption, and some people aren’t equipped with the knowledge or ability to go through the legal stuff you need to in order to arrange for it ahead of time.
Why do I have to debate? Are there rules here stating that you must supply your opinion when presenting a question?
::points to the sign over the door::
I don’t mean to be a junior mod, but this is GREAT DEBATES. Asking why you have to debate in this forum is like asking why you have to ask a question with a factual answer in GQ.
So do you have an opposition to safe haven laws you wish to share and have a discussion about?
Or left to die after being birthed into a toilet.
If those girls had been given comprehensive sex ed and birth control education, and raised in a social environment that was matter-of-fact about girls controlling their reproductive capacities so as to have non-reproductive sex at will, a lot of these kinds of things might not have happened.
Kicking a squirrel might make you a hero - especially if they’re the monster, evil squirrels found in Mountain View, California. Story.
It seems that my dog’s opinion of squirrels is right after all. 
The only downside I can see is if the father wants to raise the child. I guess that he could ask around if his girlfriend/wife turned up nonpregnant one day. Other than that…I think it’s a pretty good idea.
I support the idea of people being able to leave squirrels at hospitals or fire stations, although I think the zoo or animal control or denneys might be a better choice.
Or the Russian dog eating squirrels.
No wonder your dog doesn’t like them. 
It seems to be a general expectation that people would post a debate topic having already chosen a side; I don’t see why it need always be the case and I myself have started threads here on issues I know or suspect are contentious, but was unable to make up my mind, not knowing the detailed arguments on all sides.