How do you pronounce 'Magdalene' and 'Caius' (Cambridge colleges)?

Just when I thought I had it straight, I came across yet another pronunciation last night for Magdalene (one of the colleges at Cambridge). That reminded me that I’m still not sure how to pronounce one of the other Cambridge colleges - Caius (as in Gonville and Caius College).

Possibilities I’ve seen and heard for Magdalene (college) are:

  • magdalene (i.e. as it looks, with the penultimate ‘e’ being long)
  • magdulun
  • maudlin
  • mordlin

Possibilities for Caius (as in Gonville and Caius) are:

  • key-uss
  • kye-uss
  • kay-uss
  • keys

What do you think?

Thanks!

As I understand it, it’s Maudlin and Keys.

Englishman here, just confirming that Noel Prosequi is quite right, it’s Maudlin and Keys.

Indeed, thanks.

Out of curiosity, do you ever hear them pronounced differently?

The one in Oxford, Magdalen without the final E, is also pronounced “Maudlin”.

I have heard them pronounced as they are spelt, not least by me before I realised that “Maudlin” and Magdalene/Magdalen were the same places.

There was a young student at Caius
Who whizzed down the slopes on his skaius;
But a Fellow of Magdalene
Said "I prefer dagdalene -
“I’ve got where I am by degraius!”

Can’t help myself:

There was a young fellow named Cholmondeley,
Whose bride was so mellow and colmondeley
That the best man, Colquhoun,
An inane young bolqufoun,
Could only stand still and stare dolmondeley.

Of course. The whole point of these non-obvious pronunciations is to distinguish between those who know how the names of these two colleges are pronounced, and those who don’t. A whole host of stereotyped conclusions can be drawn from this distinction.

Actually, I believe the bride was Siobhan Menzies from Happisburgh, not to be confused with her sister, Islay Featherstonehaugh who went to Oxford, at Balliol College.

There was a young fellow from Wymondham
Who grew some tomatoes and tymondham;
When he started to scoff
He found they’d gone off
So he said something peevish and bymondham.

I grew up in Cambridge and this how they were always pronounced locally.

All I can say is, you Brits need to learn to speak English.

After all, if it was good enough for Jesus it should be good enough for us Limeys, right? :slight_smile: