How does the National Organization for Marriage "defend" marriage?

[BluePitbull]

Besides the attacking gay marriage thing, they don’t seem to attack adultery or attack anyone who take marriage as a joke. Do they ever plan on funding marriage counselors or helping kids? What exactly are they doing for marriage?

[shijinn]

as reference, here is their mission statement:

… Founded in 2007 in response to the growing need for an organized opposition to same-sex marriage in state legislatures, NOM serves as a national resource for marriage-related initiatives at the state and local level. For decades, pro-family organizations have educated the public about the importance of marriage and the family, but have lacked the organized, national presence needed to impact state and local politics in a coordinated and sustained fashion. NOM seeks to fill that void, organizing as a 501(c)(4) nonprofit organization, giving it the flexibility to lobby and support marriage initiatives across the nation.

Consistent with its 501(c)(4) nonprofit status, NOM works to develop political messaging, build its national grassroots email database of voters, and provide political intelligence and donor infrastructure on the state level, with a focus on developing new strategies for increasing influence in the Northeast and West Coast, where marriage is most under threat. …

from the Cookie Monster! OM NOM NOM NOM!

they are against people eating each other out, and seeks to uphold traditional lovemaking where voids are filled and families are created through sustained flexibility.

[Giles]

@shijinn

… families are created through sustained flexibility.

So for us oldies, who can no longer create families, and have lost the “sustained flexibility” of our youth, marriage is no longer relevant?

[DrFidelius]

Short answer, they don’t really. Are you surprised?
I supposed “National Organization for Marriage” tested with the general public better than the original name “Oh my God, There’s Queers Here who are Trying to Make Us Treat Them Like Normal People! Somebody Do Something!”

[panache45]

@DrFidelius

Short answer, they don’t really. Are you surprised?
I supposed “National Organization for Marriage” tested with the general public better than the original name “Oh my God, There’s Queers Here who are Trying to Make Us Treat Them Like Normal People! Somebody Do Something!”

This, of course. I don’t recall anybody “defending” marriage before same-sex marriage was an issue.

[RealityChuck]

The name of something is not a description. People tend to lose track of that fact.

It’s especially true with political organizations, who very often take on names that obscure their real goals. For instance, Mitt Romney has a SuperPAC named “Restore Our Future,” which gives no indication it is formed in order to promote Romney as President (and, of course, Democrats do the same thing). That’s what NOM is doing, too.

[robert_columbia]

@RealityChuck

The name of something is not a description. People tend to lose track of that fact.

It’s especially true with political organizations, who very often take on names that obscure their real goals. For instance, Mitt Romney has a SuperPAC named “Restore Our Future,” which gives no indication it is formed in order to promote Romney as President (and, of course, Democrats do the same thing). That’s what NOM is doing, too.

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For another example, Planned Parenthood isn’t so much about helping people plan parenthood in a general sense than it is about providing birth control and abortions.

[Si_Amigo]

@robert_columbia

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For another example, Planned Parenthood isn’t so much about helping people plan parenthood in a general sense than it is about providing birth control and abortions.

That is part of the planning process whether you like it or not. And they do a lot of other things besides abortions and birth control that improve the quality of life for the women and promote better health, whether you choose to acknowledge it or not. They do a lot of treatment for venereal disease as well; doesn’t that help promote better family lives by ensuring that people don’t needlessly risk having children endangered by Aids and other harmful infections that can harm a child.

[Chronos]

Doesn’t Planned Parenthood also offer fertility services (as in, for people who want to have a kid)?

[Fuzzy_Dunlop]

@Si_Amigo

That is part of the planning process whether you like it or not. And they do a lot of other things besides abortions and birth control that improve the quality of life for the women and promote better health, whether you choose to acknowledge it or not. They do a lot of treatment for venereal disease as well; doesn’t that help promote better family lives by ensuring that people don’t needlessly risk having children endangered by Aids and other harmful infections that can harm a child.

Also note that it’s Planned Parenthood not Planning for Parenthood. The name was changed because the American Birth Control League was too offensive so robert_columbia is somewhat right they were trying to soften the name.

But the point is they advocate for pregnancies that are planned - i.e. by having access to birth control. They certainly weren’t trying to imply they planned all aspects of parenthood ‘in a general sense’ in the 1940s when they changed their name.

[J_Cubed]

Generally, zone, but sometimes they use man-to-man coverage.

[Gorsnak]

@J_Cubed

Generally, zone, but sometimes they use man-to-man coverage.

Just have to line up with a couple tight ends and they’ll switch to man coverage instantly. Makes you wonder…