I had no idea how to search this on the SDMB, so if threads already exist, I do apologize.
I remember being taught in a college English class there there is a classic character breakout:
Hero, conflicted - typically the true protagonist of the situation/story
Hero, not conflicted - typically more of a pure “hero ideal”
Contrarian or emotionally more complex
Comedy relief
I am sure there is an “official” description of what I am referencing, but again, I wasn’t sure how to find it.
Running through a few Gangs of Four - not including the Communist rebels or the post-punk UK band, I tried to see how they fit:
John Lennon, Jerry Seinfeld, Spock, Pete Townshend
Paul MacCartney, Elaine Benes, Kirk, Roger Daltrey
George Harrison, George Costanza, Dr. McCoy, John Entwhistle
Ringo Starr, Cosmo Kramer, Scotty (or Chekov later), Keith Moon
I thought about this for Pride and Prejudice, but am not sure it works
Eliza Bennet
Jane Bennet
Mrs. Bennet
Lucy and Mary Bennet (the one sister who tags along doesn’t really figure in, and I don’t know what to do with Mr. Bennet)
Or the 3 (+1) Musketeers (if I can remember which is which)
D’Artagnon
Aramis
Athos
Porthos
What do you think - does this classification approach work? Are there relationships between these character types? I find it interesting that it seems to work a bit in a rock band context - it seems to illustrate how much mythologizing takes place with rock stars…
Slight nitpick. The Star Trek TOS gang was mostly the Holy Three of Kirk, Spock, and Bones. They regularly alternated (via the writers, of course) among the four positions you give. So, the TOS gang isn’t really four.
(Just thought you enjoy a very obsesed Trekker chiming in.) :dubious:
1.) Lister; lazy, feckless, unhygenic, but basically a good guy.
2.) Kryten; as an android, programmed to be an absolute good guy.
3.) Rimmer; contrarian (i.e. cowardly) more interested in self-preservation.
4.) Kat; The comedy relief, when did fashion form an important plot point?
I’d like to switch Lister and Kryten. Lister is seldom conflicted. He knows what he wants out of life and he’ll slob around as much as it takes to get him there. Kryten is constantly conflicted between his programming and habits on one side, and the breaking of his programming on the other.
Since it is a comedy, it’s hard to pinpoint the comedy relief. They all fill that role at several points each episode.
Hmm. I’d say House and Wilson switch places regularly. Also, Chase and Cameron share the #3 spot with Foreman, while occasionally showing up in #4. But #4 is usually occupied by House’s clinic patients.
And can anybody comment on the archetypes I offered up? It’s not from Joseph Campbell (“Hero of a Thousand Faces”) but do think there might be something scholarly about it…
I’m sorry, perhaps I am misunderstanding your post here - does that mean, according to my OP, that Paul McCartney is an archetypal heroine?
I see where your list makes sense for some stories, but the basic premise I am trying to look into is different, I think. I can’t find it now, but I remember reading in English class how some well-known groupings are meant to represent different aspects of a single human - so each character is more of a pure manifestation of one part of us…