How easy is it to cut off a human penis on an unwilling individual?

These stories in the media of penile amputation kinda puzzle me, Lorena used a knife and the unnamed Chinese woman a pair of scissors.

Being male I have access to a penis, and flaccid it is very flexible and of a texture like that of soft rubber with a loose sheath of skin that moves freely. The following is speculation as physical experimentation has been ruled out.

Both men were supposedly asleep, and unless both instruments were very sharp much more than the usual household implements and the assailant very strong It sees odd the deed could be done without waking them, just the manipulation required to get access would tend to wake you. You’d need real strength and a strong knife to do it, you will of course not get a chance to saw at it before waking the person.

Sharp scissors and a strong assailant seems the most likely to succeed.

I’d like to see a Mythbusters episode on this, with a penis mock up similar to ballistics gel of course.

Think of how difficult it is to cut up cooked meat with a knife sometimes, much less raw.

Makes me cringe to even think about it, but I would imagine that a good pull on the end to stretch it out and a sharp knife, would do the job.

You’d need to be strong too.

I agree on pulling it taunt, but I imagine that would cause an involuntary body spasm and instant waking.

No clue if this is real, but this pic claims to be the knife used by Lorena:

http://howtocurepe.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/lorena-bobbitt-knife2.jpg

This is said like a person who has not handled a truly well sharpened and honed knife. The chef’s knife you pictured, when well sharpened and honed properly, would cut through a whole tenderloin in a fraction of a second. Same with a good pair of kitchen shears. Like a butter knife through a chilled stick of butter. Strength of a toddler.

Really, anyone could do it.

How many random people have professional chef quality items in their house?

If the penis owner had just recently finished having coitus I should think even a dull knife could do the job without awakening him!

But seriously, a sharp knife and one good swipe would do it, very little skill involved. Really not seeing the problem.

I guess I assumed crime of passion with a handy nearest implement, guys laying on their backs a tug should be a pretty good wake up call and it would have to be a hard tug. I would think most would fail with just lacerations under these conditions.

can’t wait to hear what Cecil has to say about this

We do. Knives, anyway. I have been spending the last few years building up my SO’s butcher block; he has a beautiful set of knives of all kinds. I find it kind of sexy when he sharpens them. :eek: But they are certainly sharp enough to go through a watermelon rind or a thick chunk of meat easily. They are sharp, and strong.

I just expect there to be a lot of squirming and fighting in the above scenario. I guess they could be passed out drunk or drugged? Cuz I can’t even tiptoe across the bedroom to get my glasses without waking up my other half.

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No where near scientific but I thought I’d put some effort into it. Got a broken thick latex exercise band(the kind you stretch with handles on both ends), not even close to a good approximation of a penis but the best I had. Cut it to a few inches loose and enough slack to tie it to a cinder block and put it on the bed.

Got an assortment of kitchen and cooking knives, from rather dull to sharp but none pro quality. Pulled it taunt and tried to slice through in a single motion which difficult to do precisely with enough force no matter the position you’re in, none but the sharpest knife even made a cut, sharpest one went a third in. It is hard to quickly grab and slice with enough force in one motion fast, and a real penis would be harder as it doesn’t stretch as far as latex.

Got an assortment of two bladed cutting tools, from scissors sharp to dull to handheld pruning shears. Much easier to do this fast in one motion not awkward at all, sharpest scissors did the trick but needed a lot of force. Pruning shears went through like butter, ditto for large wire cutter pliers and other tools designed to crush and cut, scarily easy and fast.:eek:

So there you go, I have no idea why I bothered with this or wondered about this, but I’d be afraid of things designed to cut through harder objects like wire or branches the most.

This points to an important part of the equation: it helps to have a victim who is a very sound sleeper. It doesn’t take much to wake me up (wife crossing a squeaky floor to the bathroom will do it), but my brother-in-law can sleep through a smoke alarm. Fortunately he and my sister get along very well. :smiley:

If the victim is still asleep when the assailant has one hand wrapped around his member and gets a good sharp knife in position, one or two firm saw-strokes is probably enough to complete the task.

That’s what I don’t get, though. Ok. so you have your man, sound asleep, deep sleeper. You straddle him. Grab his cock. You raise the knife, and whack!

At that moment, the first moment, he is going to scream and wake up and try to curl up into a ball (and possibly try to die). Now that woman who is doing that is going to have to hang on to the half-severed…ugh, maybe that’s what happens? The rest just gets ripped off.

Pardon me, I’m going to go tell my other half I love him right now.

Would there ever be a **willing **individual?

Transgender comes to mind.

Hearsay on my part but I had thought that Bobbit wasn’t just asleep but passed out drunk.

John Wayne Bobbitt reportedly remained asleep immediately afterwards. This lead one comic to ask “So what was it that woke him up?”

I’ve been trying to find corroboration on the 'net, but it’s not immediately obvious. And I don’t want to spend time on this unless I’m at home.

Yes there was a German case where a man replied to a classifieds ad about wanting to be killed and cannibalized. The cannibal started by removing his penis, it was cooked and then both men consumed it, this was recorded on video.

I’d say that was willingly, if extremely disturbing.

ETA: Shoulda refreshed. Last few posts weren’t there when I started.

I’m assuming most such crimes happen while the victim is passed out dead drunk. A quick grab and a quick slice with a basic knife and the deed is easily done.

Part of the problem with amateurs cutting raw meat is holding it still. It takes 2 hands to stabilize the two sides, then one more hand to operate the knife.

Slicing a penis is easier since the dead weight of the rest of the unconscious body holds one end. Slicing anything under tension is much much easier.

Ah, the sort of thread a man likes to read in the morning to start off on a positive note for the day…

Exercise bands are a much tougher material than live human penis, grude (BTW score one against the Intelligent Design theory to have our Most Valuable Players be fragile and hanging unshielded). You can cut off a finger being careless in the kitchen, and those have bones.

One point about severing anything with a blade, you don’t hack absolutely perpendicularly, you put some slicing motion into the strike for maximum efficiency (thus angled guillotines).

Now where’s a thread about brain eating amoebas, I need more lighthearted reading…