And, let us not forget, that Biden doesn’t share the same rock-solid base. We have multiple threads, including a very recent one, looking for an alternative to Biden due to various wedge issues. Sure, Trump isn’t likely to gather a whole lot of protest votes, but enough people sitting at home, voting write in, or shudder RFK while his base turns out and it’s a win for Trump even if he’s weakened with any possible independents/moderates.
If they cared about Palestine they’d vote for Biden.
Republican version deep state now helping a lot. Supteme Court!
Likely scenario: SC leaves immunity undecided and throws immunity back to judge Chutkin. It then buys Trump time to the election.
Election happens. Biden wins. Case goes to court without Trump immunity. Court has then done a favor to Trump in that they did not decide it. Trump wins? It remains undecided, Trump rules and commits more crimes as president.
On and off there has been mentioned the “test for presidential behavior.” Yet the conservative justices refused to even discuss the perfect test: Trump.
Yeah. Nothing to worry about here.
I think Trump just lost the election.
I couldn’t finish the article. Seriously, nothing new, but it is genuinely terrifying. But given the “nothing new” aspect, am I wrong? Can you help someone too cowardly to finish the article understand how this is the nail in the coffin?
I remember thinking that multiple times in 2016 but I was surprised to find I was wrong. I am optimistic that Trump will lose the election in 2024. But then I’m optimism is tempered by knowing many millions of Americans still support him for a myriad of reasons. There’s nothing new in the article that leads me to believe there’s a new nail in his coffin.
At this point the coffin is 99% nail.
But he isn’t. Or rather, all those things are pros to his followers, although they are terrifying to those who believe in any semblance of pre-Trump America.
But all it takes is enough people NOT voting for Biden for whatever reasons, and he still wins.
Sure, it’s possible that a few people who read Time and somehow DIDN’T know about how bad Trump was (see some of his jurors!) will be turned off, but they probably weren’t going to vote anyway.
This election is all about turnout. He shouldn’t be a viable candidate, as said a thousand times in this thread, but his people, and people who want to preserve their perks are going to vote for him and damn the rest of us to a semi-literal hell on earth, getting people out to vote (and preventing voter suppression) is almost the entirety of the battle.
No matter how bad his planned actions are (and they’re BAD granted) - I doubt they’ll move the needle at this point. But if it stops a few hundred, or a few thousand votes at this point, I’ll take it!
I always thought Trump would win in 2016. And I never thought his supporters much care about his smaller legal issues and dalliances. This is the first time I have predicted the nail in Trump’s coffin for 2024. It is true all this is “red meat” to those already strongly persuaded to vote for him. And that group is often oversimplified; it is a broad coalition of people with many reasons they like him, or like him more than Biden.
But businesses ultimately like stability and depend on immigrants more than they may like to admit. Tariffs and isolationism is bad for business. Wealthy people in particular depend on the rule of law. Plenty of young people are very skeptical of surveillance and privacy issues, and Trump will lose youth support. The issue of abortion is popular with some groups, but part of the reason Arizona backed down from using a 180 year old law to justify recent changes was because of concern it might offend women nationwide. Even Trump realized it could lose them the election. And yet, this goes way further, and will motivate a lot of women not otherwise persuaded to vote to do so. Enough of it is unhinged enough to scare undecided people, or make Biden seem like a saner alternative.
Some will like his stance on immigration, and some think government does need wholesale reform. But since he already had his “red meat” voters, and did not need to say these things, he should perhaps either stop inserting his foot in his mouth, or leave it there long enough to block his utterances. If the Democrats can not get young people or women to vote after this gift, not sure what else they could want.
Sure, many will cheer at his bombast. But if it is all coming down to a handful of swing states, it doesn’t take huge numbers of voters to say enough is enough. I think Trump erred. Not because Time is influential as it was decades ago. But because there can be too much bombast; ultimately not many like people who harm puppies no matter how tough they think themselves.
Trumpworld now says Noem is out of consideration. So puppygate will not affect the race.
I learned in 2016 that the amount of bombast, which isn’t too much, is way more than I ever thought.
The point is that even bombast, though amazingly elastic, can still yet break if sufficiently stretched.
I’m dubious as to “Trump being Trump” necessarily always helping him. I don’t think it does. I remember the last few weeks up to the 2016 election where he suddenly got a lot quieter than normal. I’m sure he was instructed to shut up and just be “generic Republican candidate” at that point. Likewise his notoriety costing him the 2020 election, where a more "boring candidate might have won re-election.
Puppy being puppy.
Goat being goat.
Trump being Trump…?
[Eez joke!]
In diminishing order of utility and attractiveness.
This is the critical issue-not Trump’s policies.
The Democrats are their own enemy.
Some of them care more about Palestine than America.
There will be riots and violence at the Dem. convention in Chicago.And the media will emphasize it, revelling at the increase in their ratings and clicks. There will be scenes reminiscent of the BLM riots (and of course January sixth…but Foxnews will only talk about BLM.)
The Democrats will be presented as the party of violence, of chaos.
And that will scare away the swing voters—the undecided,the low-interest,low- information voters who will determine the future of the American political system.
I’m no Stormy Daniels - she is stronger than I could ever be, seeing as she has actually seen the emporer undressed. I salute her exceptional courage, while I also am acknowledging her foolhardiness.
But naked trump. Please, never again, refer to the orange idiot in any form of nudity. Think of the children.
Florida might be an interesting bellwether given DeSantis’ social conservatism. I think Trump has shot the puppy.
In case you need context…
At least some evangelicals don’t like Trump’s Bible. Here’s hoping more of them start singing from the same hymnal, so to speak.