BigT, well said except that most devout members of those religions would likely see the others as worshipping imposters. That’s a far cry from them agreeing that they all worship the same god.
As an atheist, of course, I do not believe any of them are worshiping any god at all, but that their mythologies all are derived from common roots. So if someone said they are all worshipping a different version of the same fictional God, I would agree with that. If that is what was originally meant, then fine. My objection was to the idea that active, devout followers of those religions would agree.
Yes, I’m well aware you and other mods are itching to find an excuse to get rid of me. Those pesky good manners my parents taught me make it harder for you, alas.
:dubious: Wow, talk about playing the victim card. You know, dude, people can be talking about what a schmuck you are without actually engaging in any kind of conspiracy to try to get you banned.
Yep, it’s the response that worries me more than the attacks themselves. Al Qaida may kill hundreds or even thousands of people, which is obviously something that should concern us all. But seriously, there are, what 18,000 murders in the US per year, much of which are facilitated by the ease of access to firearms – and some people think we don’t have enough guns and weaponry. But we’re going to black list a group of people that, statistically speaking, are responsible for very little violent crime in this country.
Getting repeated mod warnings for repeated jerkish behavior is not the same thing as being the victim of a conspiracy to ban you. C’mon, using the drumpf app on other people’s quoted posts and spewing personal insults in non-Pit forums? Those warnings have been well and truly earned.
I didn’t"use" anything actively --I accidentally failed to prevent it from Drumpfinating quoted material. And to call the other one “spewing insults” is a complete joke. That was such a phantom foul, the mod had to explain the tortured reasoning because I was nonplussed, utterly baffled. I could find you countless examples of much worse that draws no foul.
As the mod made clear above, it is my sincerely held and dispassionately articulated views (cf. this thread) they are really up in arms about.
Nonsense. There are plenty of other posters who hold views just as stupid and atrocious as yours, e.g., contemplating the alleged “necessity” of ethnic/religious cleansing as a response to some undetermined minimum level of terrorism. If the mods were really trying to ban people just for holding stupid and atrocious views, lots of you would already be long gone.
:dubious: “The” other one? As in, you’ve received a whole two warnings total, in both cases for continuing to do things that mods had already told you to stop doing, and that’s sufficient to inspire this victim fantasy of yours? Wow, you are a crybaby.
The crucial difference is that the people you are talking about are easily dismissed as fundie fanatics, FOX News watching knuckleheads, etc. They don’t have my intelligence, wit, style, debating ability, or dispassionate restraint. They provide amusing fodder to reinforce the CW viewpoints. And they are easily categorized into neat little boxes. Whereas I threaten that whole edifice, and that drives them up the wall (the same reason so much fury is directed against my hero Sam Harris). Ergo, “zero tolerance”.
I was told the same thing years ago. I’d had too many warnings in a short period. Two were a misunderstanding, and one that same sort of torturous logic–my reaction to which being what started the “BigTard” thing that follows me to this day. (I’ve both seen and made thousands of posts like the Warned one since, without nary a peep.)
So, despite the fact that I still view all of those Warnings as illegitimate, I never once took it as them hating me for my views, which often do not align with people here.
Hell, you got in trouble for the Drumpf thing again, and got nothing but a (needlessly condescending) mod note. (I hope it wasn’t my addon–I have no idea why it would have messed up.) If the mods wanted you gone, that would have been the excuse.
There are definitely posters the mods don’t like more than you. If they were gonna start removing people just for stuff like that, they’d disappear before you did.
That “mod note” was actually the warning that got me told I was on the edge of being suspended (zero tolerance). But it’s not your add-on’s fault: this board for some reason doesn’t show nested quotes within what you’re quoting, and the post I was quoting made no sense without the quoted material within it. So I manually copied that material and made a quote box within the other one, but I forgot to check for any “Drumpfs” that I had to change to “Trump”. I have now disabled the addon, and instead I am trying to note as often as possible that Trump is, as Bill Maher has termed him, a #whinylittlebitch.
Actually, the only time I have ever seen your name come up in the Mod loop has been to try to figure out why you persist in using that stupid Drumpf app. If you want to misspell the guy’s name in your own posts, just type it. Otherwise, the app only causes you to have to go back and change quotes–an action you have persistently failed to do. No one cares about you as a poster. Why you would think that you are sufficiently interesting or irritating to actually give a Mod an itch to bother with you, I have no idea.
Let me make that clear: you are not that interesting that you have caused any Mod to want to see you banned. We just want you to stop breaking one rule that you insist on breaking. Your persecution complex is silly, just like your insistence that you need an external bit of software to misspell Trump’s name.
You were given three separate mod notes indicating that your app (and your refusal to correct its actions) was a problem. Only on the fourth separate occasion were you given a Warning. It was only after multiple Mod notes that you were told that your persistent flouting of the rules was going to get you in serious trouble.
There is no “zero tolerance” playing out here, your imagination, notwithstanding.
I don’t think “zero tolerance” means what you think it means. If there was a zero tolerance policy there would be no such thing as warnings, it would be insta-hammerban-of-doom.
And yet. When I post controversial opinions, and I get super harsh pushback about them, a significant portion of the time I look at the person’s name and it has “mod” by it. There can’t be that many mods here that such a high proportion of posts are written by them. If I’m so uninteresting, you (collectively) are welcome to stop responding to my posts any time. Just ignore me, that would be jim dandy.
Of course, I don’t “insist” on anything of the sort. At no time did I consciously break that rule. You might want to look up the meaning of the word “insist”. And I would find it more plausible that you’re just looking to enforce that rule if there wasn’t the other warning for something completely unrelated and completely ticky tack, as noted upthread. It was for an alleged personal insult, which anyone paying attention should be able to tell isn’t my style. (I sneer at people but I don’t insult them.)
Would someone with a persecution complex wait until they had more than 10,000 posts before they complained of persecution? That is an incredibly patient persecution complex, at any rate!
And you don’t understand the way that Chrome extension works, which is fine. But just FYI, and as BigT could tell you since he wrote it, it doesn’t involve itself with the writing/typing process at all. Every time I have written “Drumpf” in one of my own posts, I did indeed type those letters: D-R-U-M-P-F. What the extension did is make every appearance of “Trump” on any webpage (including the SDMB), appear instead as “Drumpf”. But BigT modified it so that when quoting someone else’s post, it would get converted back to “Trump”. Thus the only problem came when I manually copied text from a nested quote box and pasted it into a manually created HTML nested quote in my reply, because that bypassed the conversion. Oops.
In any event, I no longer use the add-on and I hope to see you proved right. But that other questionable warning is the one that concerns me. I have written probably 500 posts, easy, that were just as snide if not more so. So if that can arbitrarily be judged a “personal insult”, I don’t stand much of a chance, at least not outside the Pit.
Am I allowed to quote from the PM I received from a mod which specifically used the term “zero tolerance”? It was after receiving that very PM a few days ago that my “persecution complex” began, just coincidentally.
