Also, to name drop a bit ;), I have a buddy who trained with Judo Gene for a time in the 70s. He (my friend) is spooky-crazy-fast at holds and locks, and can tie me in painful knots and submissions before I’m done blinking. He credits Gene for the effectiveness of what he’s learned, and I have infinte respect for those old-school ugly-as-nails judo guys 
There are a few old Gene Labelle books that have techniques that will really add a boost to your martial art toolbox.
A while back I posted this anecdote to a somewhat similar thread:
Plus, you can always cheat. Back in the 80’s, I was briefly involved in martial arts competition. I got beat down rather brutally on several occasions by a big steroid-monkey kind of guy who was like kicking and punching a brick wall. He was a student from some generic karate school. I was studying tang soo do at the time. On the last occasion when we met, his instructor told mine “I’d appreciate it if your boy would stay off my boy’s ribs. He was in an accident the other day and his ribs are sore.” So, the first thing I did was kick him in the ribs. He went down squealing. His instructor said something sneering to me about having no honor. I shrugged and said “If he was too banged up to fight, he shouldn’t have gone in the ring.”
Just correcting a typo! 
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That is quite wrong. A boxer would actually be at a disadvantage. He might be able to box like a sunuvabitch, but my legs are still longer than his arms. I’ll stay outside the range of his punches, I’ll block if I need to, and I will eventually take out one of his legs with a kick. If I’m feeling benevolent, I’ll do it with a shot to the common peroneal pressure point. If I’m not, I’ll destroy his knee and he will be on a cane for the rest of his life.
And here’s some footage of that fight.
The first 90-120 seconds is continuous (Milo Savage throws one punch in 90 seconds), then it starts jumping around and finishes with someone asleep on the canvas.
I’ve have no knowledge of martial arts and I know some about boxing but all I really have to contribute is an anecdote.
When I was in high school, a man came to my gym class to teach us self defense and the man had a black belt in Karate and ran some Karate school. At the time, myself and my group of friends were all under the impression that people who are good at Martial Arts were magical and can’t possibly ever lose in a fight (whatever, we were in grade 10 and had really only seen Bruce Lee and Van Damme movies to base this on).
That night, we were at a house party. I was there with a friend of mine and his brother (he’d be about 19 at the time, in Ontario at the time it’s not out of the ordinary for a 19 year old to be in high school). They are both boxers, and quite good actually. I lost touch with my friend a while back but eventually he ended up at the olympics (He actually won a match or two, was a ways from a medal though). I’m not sure how high my friends brother went but it’s safe to assume he was at least a respectable boxer. He was a reasonably sized guy and if he were a pro, he’d probably be light heavyweight or a cruiserweight.
After no more than 20 minutes at the party, we ran into the Karate guy (small town). I’m sure there was some back story that I wasn’t privy to but it should suffice to say that they were NOT fond of one another. My friend and I were warning his brother about his Black Belt but that didn’t deter the brother. After a bit of arguing the brother missed with his first punch and the Karate guy came back with a kick that missed the mark, but from that point on it was all brother. It lasted four more punches and the Karate dude was out cold.
You don’t really forget a fight like that because it shatters whatever pre-conceived notions one might have about martial artists being unbeatable. I realize this is only a sample size of one.
FYI, the Karate guy was maybe 4 inches shorter but was a little more muscular so they’d probably be in the same weight class.
Ah yes, the world of boxing must tremble at your coming :rolleyes:
Based on this post, I’m pretty sure you’ve never faced a skilled boxer. Boxers are every bit as much aware of range issues as any skilled martial artist. Just like you will work on staying out of range of his punches, he will work on staying inside the range of your fearsome kicks. Boxers have excellent footwork and his closing with you will be quick. While he’s in there, he won’t just be smiling at you.
What Scumpup said.
I did a google search for “k-1 rules” and found the following:
My bolding.
So knee kicking is apparently forbidden in K-1 Fighting. Why would that be? I think it’s because a good knee kick is absolutely devastating and has a good chance of inflicting permanent injury.
Sounds like the sensei’s mistake was to warn his opponent that violence was coming. As if there’s some sort of code of honor.
If somebody confronted me like that, I would just run away no matter how good a fighter I was. Because you don’t know if the other guy’s buddy is standing nearby with a gun. If a fight was unavoidable, I would strike out immediately without any kind of warning. And I would probably kick to the knee or groin as hard as I could.
Interesting. Also the first kick in the video is right to the side of the knee, so I don’t know how that jives with the rules.
that’s a pretty awesome video. I trained with a judo blackbelt that was a junior national wrestling champion. Dang, if you didn’t rip out his eye on the takedown, you were just dead meat.
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Then Sensei wasn’t much of a martial arts master was he?
Main Entry: mar·tial
Pronunciation: \ˈmär-shəl\
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, from Latin martialis of Mars, from Mart-, Mars
Date: 14th century
1 : of, relating to, or suited for war or a warrior
2 : relating to an army or to military life
3 : experienced in or inclined to war : warlike
He may have known something about kicking and punching, but he didn’t seem to know too much about fighting.
Internet tough-guy detected!
If you look at the text just before your bolded section it looks like they are talking about kicks to the nuts.
Quote:
<Category of Foul Techniques>
**Attacking the opponent in the groin **(knee kicking or punching the opponent in the area under the navel shall be considered as low-blows and will be ruled as fouls).
Watching the video there were plenty of kicks to the leg.
justrob is quite correct; they are referring to the technique of striking WITH the knee when they refer to “knee kicking”.
Kicks to the knee are allowed in K1 - as demonstrated in the clip.
Actually, I have.
The one and only fight that I couldn’t get out of was against a guy that boxed and thought he was a badass. He decided he was going to get a chunk of me. He didn’t and I walked away while he was lying on the ground screaming.
Yes, it’s anecdotal evidence. But there it is.
This never happened.