How Much Longer Does Ginsburg Have?

Okay, well it’s two stock images, 6 words and a date range. If it takes them more than 10 minutes, I’d be rather surprised. And fwiw, her most recent cancer scare technically was in 2018 meaning that if they updated it for that reason they waited for after the holidays or something.

And she’s back at work at the court.

How morbid.

Breaking news on MSNBC right now that RBG had radiation treatment August 5 for a new tumor found on her pancreas. Link to story below:

Fuck. That’s not a good cancer to have.

Yeah, but apparently she’s had it before and beat it.

For varying definitions of “beat”.

If Trump is re-elected and the GOP retains control of the Senate, she will live forever. The next session of the Supreme Court starts up in October - she will apparently be in shape to participate, even at 86.

My grandmother also had pancreatic cancer, and she was able to do the radiation treatments as an outpatient for a while as well. Of course, that was a long time ago, and treatments have progressed.

Regards,
Shodan

It’s my understanding that if you have a cancer and “beat” it, but then the same kind of cancer comes back, it usually means that you didn’t actually beat it, and you’ve now missed the one opportunity you’ll ever have to beat it. In other words, this could be very bad news.

IIUC she’s had colon cancer and lung cancer and pancreatic cancer. Now the pancreatic cancer has come back, and has allegedly been treated with radiation. I don’t know if that counts as the same kind of cancer, but she’s 86. There ain’t no kind of cancer that isn’t bad news.

I don’t think it’s the kind she’s got either.

Regards,
Shodan

the US Supreme Court just released this statement

I actually hope she survives until after the election. Because if she dies in Trump’s last year, the Republicans will ram through a replacement as quickly as possible, and I’m guessing the other side will go absolutely ballistic given what happened in Obama’s last year with Merrick Garland.

Also, if the Republicans push through another conservative and Trump loses the election, there will be enormous pressure on a Democratic president to pack the court, and that would be bad for U.S. politics.

I hope she gets better and lives a long time more.

But politically, I don’t think it even matters any more. The SCOTUS is majority Republican, and has been for years. It’s just another political institution, and one that happens to be dominated by Republicans at present. Hopefully in a few years it will be majority Democratic. Even better, but far less likely, the country will restore a much less political SCOTUS by reforming the process. Until then, I hope the Democrats do everything they can possibly get away with to try and game the SCOTUS their way, just like the Republicans have been doing for years.

Steve Jobs had pancreatic cancer and lived for a while , eventually he needed a liver transplant but after that he still died. He was only 55 when he died.

Wait, how does that work? If the cancer cells show up but are defeated each time, can’t you just beat and re-beat it indefinitely (until you have lived as long as you need to live, like Ginsburg does, in outlasting her political opponents?)

I’m curious, from a procedure perspective, how long a ruling party must take to get a replacement justice confirmed.

If Trump lost the 2020 election and Republicans lost their Senate majority, but Ginsburg died in December 2020 just a few days before the new Congress was scheduled to take office, could Senate Republicans nominate a new replacement like Barrett or Pryor, scuttle the confirmation hearings, hold a vote, and effectively ram the replacement through within 24 hours?

You beat as many cancer cells as can be beaten, and hope and pray that that’s all of them. If it comes back, then it means that at least some cancer cells weren’t beatable by the therapy you used (most likely, because they’d spread throughout the body). And so now the cancer you’ve got coming back is unbeatable.

Rule Number One: They can do anything you can’t stop them from doing.
Rule Number Two: You can’t stop them from doing anything.

I just heard on a podcast yesterday that he could still be alive if he didn’t initially turn to woo instead of surgery.

Yes my understanding is Jobs was a candidate for the Whipple procedure, but instead initially sought out more nutritional or homeopathic “treatments”. Could have potentially cured him or at least bought him another five years or so, maybe more, what a dumb-dumb.

It’s not quite that simple. My dad had colon cancer. After 5 years clear, his doctor told him he had beat it, and if he had any more it would be a separate incident unrelated to the first.

I don’t know what the relapse time period is on pancreatic cancer, but she had the first batch in 2009.