How to lose weight when I hate everything associated with it?

No if you gain weight you pay her in addition to missing out on sex…

They have a word for that: bulimia. :smack:

The only way I could ever exercise was to get on the treadmill with a good book. An ebook or tablet might be even easier. It’s not the most vigorous exercise, but it’s better than nothing.

You have to take up cooking as a hobby, and learn how to cook more subtle and interesting meals. (The only way I can cook is with a good story on in the background; I stream tv series - usually British Mysteries - on my laptop when I’m in the kitchen.)

Your weight loss advice is to cultivate an eating disorder which has made the DSM V: you are advising developing a mental illness.

I said “advice that some schoolgirls give” not MY advice… also it was in response to a comment about “the single worst weight loss suggestion”… i.e. it is a bad suggestion.

Seems fitting: The OP is already working on a whole host of physical illnesses.

OK, my thoughts fwiw.

basically, you’re fat, lazy and full of excuses.

News flash, you don’t have to enjoy the exercise or turn into a competitive exerciser. In fact you don’t have to do a damn thing.

However, if you keep going the way you’re going, shit will start to happen to you likely in the next 10 years as you’ll be over 30. High Cholesterol, High Blood Pressure, heart disease, diabetes, just the fact that as you lose muscle mass you’ll find it harder and harder to to basic physical activity like walk through a shopping centre.

So, get over all the bullshit and make a call. If you want to be around for the next 40+ years, potentially have kids (or not) and have the capacity to enjoy life, make some changes. You don’t have to like it, just do some research, work out what you need to do and take it like medicine because you have to.

Or don’t. Make excuses, keep going where you’re going and die young after spending the last few years coping with all the health issues that come with obesity .

Your call.

I hate everything associated with the weight loss INDUSTRY because it shames fat people and is especially bad for kids. It does affect girls more by the numbers but I worry about impressionable young people in general. I had a serious eating disorder for a decade and, while it wasn’t caused entirely by the weight loss industry, the industry certainly was a negative influence on me at a young age.

I think it’s best to frame this as getting MORE healthy instead of LESS fat. For good health, you don’t need an intense daily workout regimine or overly restrictive diet. I use a pedometer and I like it a lot. For me, it shows me that I am actually very active in my daily life (I live in NY and walk everywhere) so I don’t stress and sign up for gym memberships. The gym is expensive and often an unhealthy environment for some people.

A pedometer might help you, and there are fairly accurate ones that are just apps on your phone. You can buy a very accurate real pedometer for $50 or less. You don’t have to formally “work out,” you just need to make a little effort to move your body in space. Short walks add up. You can put on headphones and listen to music you like or a chapter of an audiobook while you walk. Walking is a sustainable form of exercise that you can do into old age.

A common number of recommended steps is 10,000 a day, but this is very high to start if you are sedentary. A good start often suggested is 6,000. You might be surprised how easy it is and how much of a difference it makes.

As far as diet, I think it’s healthier to focus on adding rather than subtracting. You don’t have to cut out any foods, and doing so is proven to cause bingeing. Are you eating enough fruits and veggies? If you aren’t, learn different ways to prepare them and focus on adding a lots of veggies and a couple pieces of fruit every day. Focus on the nutritional profiles and benefits of the foods you add. Experiment with lots of different types of produce. There are probably fruits and veggies you’ve never tried!

Good fats are important and keep you full and make your brain work. Add these, too, if you aren’t getting enough. The oil in fish is good for you. So are avocados, nuts, and many vegetable oils. You can combine these with the veggies and fruits you add to your diet in plenty of delicious ways.

Fiber is important for digestion and good digestion makes you feel more comfortable. Make sure you are eating enough of it. If not, the fruit and veggies will help, and you could also add breads and crackers made of whole grains, or perhaps with flax in them.

I really think that focusing on adding new nutrient-dense foods balances out the diet, and your tastes will change once you adjust. Eliminating food groups will just make you crave them, whereas adding new foods is fun and delicious. Dieting shouldn’t decrease your quality of life. The whole point of healthy eating is to improve your life!

It’ll be the Battle of Malden.

No nonononoooo! DO treat yourself for being good and working out! Just make sure the treats aren’t food. I’m doing the slowly but surely thing, and treat myself with new (smaller) pieces of clothing. Or, if I’ve had a good week, but haven’t exactly lost enough to get into a smaller size, shoes…always shoes :smiley:

Or maybe a small cheap thing like a hair clip or something.

For you, it could be new books/research material. Or, how 'bout books regarding working out? As a former PE instructor, I’ve LONG maintained that a good 70% of success in losing weight in mental/emotional as in “it’s not what you’re eating, it’s what’s eating you”. There are a lot of good books out there that deal with the emotional aspect of it (I think there actually IS one called “it’s not what you’re eating…”).

The crux of this advice is that it is going to be more sustainable if you don’t feel like you are depriving yourself, and small changes over a long period of time add up. Also, taking some baby steps can help get the ball rolling. Doing something small that is a healthy change is better than doing nothing.

Unless I’m depriving myself, I don’t lose weight. I hope it’s different for the OP because this self-deprivation thing sucks. Yeah, I’m having a bad day - been good all week and haven’t lost a gram.

I lost a lot of weight when i stopped having a cup of (heavily sugared) coffee every morning.

I will add to all of this by suggesting a FitBit (www.fitbit.com). I find I can never stick to long-term goals; it’s too easy for me to say, “Oh, I still have a month left in my six month goal” only to realize I cannot possibly lose 30 pounds in a month. Then I get frustrated and the cycle starts again. But with the FitBit, I set daily goals and only focus on getting through the day. Not the week, not even the month. I have the start of the day to the end of the day to walk 15,000 steps. (Any of the goals offered by FitBit can be adjusted to your own numbers.) This means getting off my bus in the morning five stops before my connecting bus. It means getting off that bus two stops before my workplace, and instead of going to the Tim Hortons that is in my mall, it means I walk the 4 block round trip to get my coffee at McDonalds. But I’m motivated by daily numbers and when that wristband buzzes when I’ve hit 15k, I take it as a great success.

I love music, so I’ve always got my ipod going, which makes walking less boring. I also like to use that time to ruminate about whatever’s taking up space in my mind. “Should I buy that bed frame from IKEA?” “What should I add to the website I run?” “Who should I transfer out of my footie fantasy pool this weekend?” Etc. I find it quite relaxing.

Good luck in whatever you do!

Good. Being fat is shameful. If you are overweight you should feel unhappy about that. No one is holding you down and force feeding you soda and Big Macs. Sure, there are a few edge cases where people are overweight for reasons other than sloth and gluttony, but that sure as heck isn’t the norm.

I’ve no idea what you mean by “weight loss industry” though. Gyms and SlimFast?

Yes, the goal should be to be more fit, but part of that equation is a reasonable body fat percentage. Becoming less fat is an important component of getting healthy no matter how many people insist that they are healthy at 5’8" and 300lbs.

Some people absolutely do need a restrictive diet and intense workout schedule if your standard for the latter is “more exercise than walking regularly.” Many, many people have issues with self-regulation of food intake, and these people would benefit from controlling their eating habits. Similarly, while walking is certainly healthy it’s not a particularly efficient form of exercise. If you really do have the time to hike for hours every day it might suffice, but most people are better off running or swimming in order to accomplish more in less time.

But you’re absolutely correct in recommending walking if the alternative is sitting on the couch. At the very least it might be a “gateway exercise.” I’ll keep pushing Couch to 5k instead though, because most able-bodied people can manage to make it through that program without much issue and it’s a far more effective form of exercise.

In what way are gyms unhealthy environments?

No. You have to add and subtract. There is no reason to believe that adding good, lean meats and fresh veggies will cause anyone to give up their daily Baconator, basket o’ fries, and bucket of HFCS.

I disagree with this. If I am really really hungry when I get home from work and I eat some fruit and a yogurt, then I will eat less when dinner is ready.
I also want to second the opinions above that the goal should be about health not about weight. Progress with weight loss can be so slow and discouraging. Setting other smaller goals can demonstrate success before or even without seeing a change on the scale.

I agree with you, eating filling but healthy foods isn’t a guarantee that you won’t also have that baconburger but it’s much harder to over consume when you’re already full.

One thing that does happen is cooking a nice healthy meal (maybe a chicken-veggie stir fry over brown rice) and then proceeding to eat two or three servings worth, even when you’d never consider overeating on pizza or sweets. Healthy food is better than unhealthy food, but you can get just as fat on healthy food as anything else. Outside of celery and water, portion control is aways going to be important.

The value of small changes is not necessarily the impact that they will have. It’s about learning how to incorporate better eating seamlessly into your lifestyle. The OP seems to think it aways requires precise calorie counting or other intensive efforts. In reality, it’s simple- take what you eat now, swap out some of the obviously empty calories, and eat less of it. Calorie counting is just a tool that helps some people with that.

Which is why it’s important to learn some techniques to help with portion control, like putting the extra food into plasticware and into the fridge/freezer before you sit down to eat. Or getting the To Go box with the meal and putting what you don’t want into that right away.

Start off with resistance training. That’s what did it for me. As I got stronger, my metabolism went up because muscle is an active organ. The more of it you have, the more calories you burn just by existing.