How to prevent Battlestar Galactica (new series) from "jumping the shark"

First off, my standard disclaimer…

even the worst BSG is BETTER than what currently passes for TV these days…

that said, i have noticed the eps getting a little weaker and more “Star Trekky” and i don’t like the way that it’s going, they need to stop frakking around with a proven formula, that said, here are the changes i’d make;

Ron Moore, you are no longer permitted to do “Flashback” based episodes, with the past 3 or 4 eps, you’ve beaten that plot device horse into a fine red paste, if i may mix metaphors here, you’ve used up your “flashback ep” allotment for this season, all the remaining eps must have a conventional timeline…

to nip it in the bud… NO TIME TRAVEL EPS, EVER!

you’ve also used up your “self-contained eps” allotment as well, if you’re going to introduce a major villan, whether it be a human, a Meatbag Toaster, or a Raider, give that character a decent story arc so we can learn to hate them and rejoyce when Starbuck, Apollo or Kat greases them

NO TECHNOBABBLE ALLOWED

Drop the “Magic Pop-Tart Blood” (or rather “Magic Pop-Tart Filling” :wink: ) plotline, it smacks too heavily of BAD TNG Trek, thankfully you’ve only used this plot device once, let it slide

and on that note, since i’m not a fan of kids/babies (especially not magic/Übertalented kids/babies) or kids/babies in sci-fi shows, drop the “Pop-Tart” thread entirely, adding a baby to a sci-fi show is a bad idea, especially a “magic baby that can change everything”, maybe have the Pop-Tart have a Kernel Panic or something, or have the Toasters abduct it after it’s born (therefore giving Boomer a reason to completely turn her back on her Toaster side and perhaps be re-integrated into Galactica’s crew)

i know the Mark VII Vipers are more sophisticated and better armed (3 cannons, the two on the main wings, one on the rudder), but they just don’t have the “feel” of the classic Mark II’s, don’t completely eliminate the use of the MK II’s, the VII’s just don’t have that “Real Viper” feel to them anyway

admittedly, Toaster battle strategies have changed, now that when they die in a dream, they’re dead for rea…oops, sorry, thinking about “A Nightmare On Elm Street” there… err…when they die, they’re dead for good, still, the Rag Tag Fleet is hurting for resources, especially metals for constructing Vipers, why not scavenge the metal from the Raiders you shoot down…

and on that note, why not have Balty get HeadSix (or even Gina/PegaSix) to help design an EMP/Virus weapon to use against the raiders, something to shut down their organics and allow the disabled ships to be captured, lobotomized, retrofitted with Colonial flight controls and instrumentation, and used against the Toasters (or do a Terminator 2 on them and reprogram them to attack the other Raiders and/or BaseStars), maybe Balty’s assistance isn’t even neccecary, have him design the EMP/Virus weapon

Rebuild the Blackbird, and make more of them, a Stealth ship is a valuable tactical resource

what would you change to improve/shark-proof BSG?

err, i meant to say have Chief Tyrol design the virus/weapon…

And follow Babylon 5’s rule of “NO CHILDREN”. No Jake Sisco or Wesley Crusher.

Feel free to use Teddy Bears, however anatomically correct dolls might not have the same payload.

Declan

Get it off the Sci Fi Channel. The shark is in sight.

Kimosave you forget the DS9 episode The Muse.

You pretty much said it all, Mac.
Use story arcs, no rug rats, quit with the flashbacks.

I would add hire a new or listen to your current science advisor. Improve your computer science skills, for example Cylon net work hacking. Talk to your physician about this fourty five second cancer cure thinf. :slight_smile:

There’s only one sure way…

Cancel the series, frame as many cast members as possible for drug possession, burn down the sets. That way, there’ll never be any arguments over if it did or didn’t jump, or when or why. It will become a television legend—immortal, pure, unchanging in it’s perfection.

We must destroy it in order to save it.

Or, fire Moore and have the scripts written exclusively by Dopers who actually care about the series…

…admittedly there’d be a distinct increase in the number of Starbuck/Kat/Dee/Gina/Boomer/BBBB Jellomatch episodes, but would that be a bad thing really?

oh, okay, i suppose we could film some Apollo/Helo/<insert attractive male characters here> matches for the ladies too, gotta be equal-opportunity and all

of course there would also be more than a few eps consisting of nothing more than space combat (with proper 3-axis flying) footage…

It will be a sad, sad day when and if this show jumps the shark. I have to admit that it has seemed to be rather at a stand-still lately. Kinda like it wandered in to a cul-de-sac. I sure hope if finds its way back to the main road. And don’t make Baltar such a nut case. It just isn’t believable that people still hold him in esteem. If you can’t do that, at least give us naked women! :slight_smile:

Nudity. Lots and lots of extraneous nudity. Boomer and Six action. Callie and Boomer action. Then shoot Starbuck into a star. More nudity. :smiley:

Some things to prevent:

  1. Screwing Up the Poptart

The Poptart resolution can’t suck. It’s been in the toaster since season one. The Helo/Boomer romance, the amazing scene at the Kobol opera house, Baltar’s visions…this is a huge story arc, and the biggest attainable one, since we know they won’t find Earth until the series is canceled. If it falls flat or is over the top, the show has jumped.

  1. The Guest Star Tour

Keep 'em out, I say. It was nice to see the dude from Predator again (sing: “I’m gonna have me some fun”) but I spent half the time thinking “Nice to see the dude from Predator again.” As the series is now hot, the number of B-class celebs looking to add a notch will grow. Guest stars cheapen the show and encourage throwaway characters and dumb stories. Plus, the two big names on the show have, in my opinion, done an incredible job of helping me forget that they’re big screen actors in the real world. Recognizable guest stars destroy some of that, I think.

  1. Aliens That Suck

We have no aliens yet, but the original series did. I think if the show keeps going, it’s a matter of time. Lords of Kobol forbid that they do something craptastic like the whole quaintly-honorable-warrior-aliens thing, or something similar. If and when they show up, if a token alien representative joins the crew as an ambassador or social scientist or some other ridiculous reason, the show has definitely jumped.

  1. Admiral Adama Leaves the Show

Game over, man. Game over.

The pilot of the original show established that there were aliens, mostly under the rule of the Cylon Empire, and then they were never seen or referred to again. The new show has established that life-bearing planets are rare in the extreme, and that aliens aren’t just going to turn up. (I think it would be funny to have a brief scene showing someone reading a “science-fiction” magazine about alien encounters, and have someone else snort at how preposterous the idea is.)

Well, you could claim that the angels , that satanic character and some of the characters from the bar scene in the movie were definitely alien , humanoid ,but alien.

Those girls definitely did have two mouths.

Declan