How to revitalize Star Trek

…and it’s so simple: Make the next series set in the Mirror Universe!

That’s the exact wrong thing to do! Almost a mirror image of the right thing.:slight_smile:

We have too much grit these days. TV is too dark. There are no heroes on TV anymore, just varying degrees of heel.

Maybe it’s more realistic - maybe life is that way. But do we need Star Trek to be that way, too? Can’t we have one shining beacon on the hill to aspire to? Does everything have to be dark?*
*except for those damn fake lens flares!

How to revitalized Star Trek? Throw JJ Abrams into a volcano.

Then follow that up with all these writers who insist that all science fiction be depressing and post-apocalyptic and full of assholes. And bring DS9 to Blu-Ray.

Just make another movie as good as the first two.

And maybe do some actual exploring for once. There’s yet to be a Star Trek movie about what the series is supposed to be about.

Ban any reference to or use of Time Travel from the universe for the foreseeable future.

Ignore the movie series and reboot the universe to the original series or another ship in the same time period or thereabouts.
Stop the fucking madness with this eternal push for darker, grittier crap.
Have fun.

Put it back on TV. Don’t make it it “dark”. Create a future people would want to live in and populate it with interesting characters. I want optimistic Sci Fi!

Ouch, you mean the first one, right? Looks like the new series will be the “odd-movie” rule to replace the “even-movie” rule of the old.

No, he means ST:TMP and ST:TWoK, of course! No one would ever say the Abrams movies were good, would they?

A TV series based after Nemesis would be fine with me. It doesn’t have to be on an Enterprise, but I’d like to see older ships on occasion, like you would see in the other TV series.

That’s really true, isn’t it?

The closest one would be Insurrection, which started out on a scientific mission, and even it got hijacked by the forces of dark and grittiness.

Torture first, then the volcano.

If you want to reboot Star Trek in filmland, you skip anything remotely like an origin story and just drop the characters into an adventure, just like the pilots to the original series did.

I agree, but, does anyone do that anymore? How many Superman, Spiderman, Hulk, Batman etc origin stories do we need? Everyone already knows them, probably from birth. But they keep “rebooting”.

Plot out a 5 year story arc - and make each season progress the story (basically the Breaking Bad rule of story telling). Break Gene Rodenberry’s rule of no conflict within the crew. I’m not talking going dark and gritty, just making the human characters act more like people. I’ve heard that the reason Rick Berman wanted people to act so flat (with little facial expression) was because of limits on the ability to get facial movements in the alien masks. The more expressive humans were, the more fake the aliens looked. I would suspect that’s an issue that could be fixed now. Finally, broaden the story telling to include things outside the spaceship. Of course the ship will still be the center of the story, but expand to Starfleet, crew families on their home planets, and broaden the stories of alien cultures and how their interraction with Starfleet affects them.

What the next ST movie needs is for the creative team to forget that the television series and its movies ever existed. Into Darkess was a travesty of poorly adapted and inappropriately used tropes from TOS and WoK.

They even lifted from Galaxy Quest, I figure.

Another idea - take a lesson from Doctor Who and every couple of years shake up the crew. Use that opportunity to slightly alter the way the stories are told so the show always has a chance to feel fresh, or at least different enough that it keeps fan interest.

They were every bit as good as anything else in the franchise.

Make of that what you will.

Give them all Brown Coats

Ah, the Law & Order tactic.

I’d be interested in a series set after Voyager.

Didn’t Voyager return to the Alpha Quadrant all decked out in Borg tech from the future? Suppose that Starfleet engineers are able to reverse-engineer a bunch of it, and upgrade their fleet. They smash the Borg in short order. Then they have an extra-high-tech fleet of warships with not that much to do, so they start to wonder how much longer they want to put up with the Romulans’ bullshit.