On what do you base that these stinky footed bumpkins could not afford the resources?
Lol. Twenty years…
Do you google anything before you spout unsubstantiated off your head stuff?
I think it’s because the pyramids were basically resurrection machines for the pharaohs…and the instruction was for him during his trials leading to the afterlife. Like the other funerary gifts, they were meant for his use.
For all, this statement reminded me of some documentary where they said the outside of the Great Pyramid was plastered with mortar and would have been covered in writing. Was this pure speculation of the cladking sort or is there some evidence of the writing?
Herodotus actually saw writing on the pyramid.
On the pyramid it is declared in Egyptian writing how much was spent on radishes and onions and leeks for the workmen, and if I rightly remember that which the interpreter said in reading to me this inscription, a sum of one thousand six hundred talents of silver was spent; and if this is so, how much besides is likely to have been expended upon the iron with which they worked, and upon bread and clothing for the workmen, seeing that they were building the works for the time which has been mentioned and were occupied for no small time besides, as I suppose, in the cutting and bringing of the stones and in working at the excavation under the ground?
Whether the translation he was given was accurate is speculation.
I don’t know about the writing, but the Great Pyramid would have been covered in white limestone cladding (which I figure is where claddy got his name from) from the Tura quarry and would have shown in the sun. The capstone would have been gleaming gold in color…though no one knows for sure, since it’s been missing pretty much for all of recorded history as far as I know.
Yes, that is correct. Snake and rod(?) ‘to speak’.
The word for ‘by’ in could be incorporated. Reedplume, water.
So you would get ‘to be said by’.
Gods and forefathers could be called upon to do some of the incantations.
Also, the topstone (pyramidion) would probably have been inscribed. The surviving ones often are.
There were several restorations though, so I’m not sure if whatever writings Herodotus may or may not have seen were original. It’s hard to believe that any writings on the outside of the pyramid would have survived the passage of so much time, especially the fall of the Old Kingdom and several successor states where the pyramids and most other things were allowed to fall into complete disrepair, only to be restored later on and re purposed by successor states and kings for their own purposes.
Yes I know about the cladding or casing stones. I recall mention of the mortar somewhere but it was the writing I thought would be significant. I recall the documentary said the writing would be something about the Pharoah’s philosophy writ large to be seen as one approached the pyramid from a distance but Peter Morris’ cite contradicts that, assuming Herodotus was correct, and of course my recollection may be incorrect as well.
Start a thread, see if you can get it to 20 pages.
Do you have any objective evidence whatsoever of this remarkable assertion? Your gut doesn’t count.
From my own memories, the earliest writings on the Great Pyramid that survive were from the Middle Kingdom period (2 successor states after the Old Kingdom), but I don’t recall any mention of writing. Herodotus would have been, of course, from the Late Period, which was almost 2000 years after the Old Kingdom fell.
595 posts. What do you think this thread is?
Piffle.
If this is a reference to my statements, I would note that it is not even close to the primary objection I have to your nonsense. However, I will note that your use of the word metaphysical is much closer to woo than its use for the last 2,300 years, or so. It means nothing like what you claim that it does.
Since the original author of metaphysics referred to it as “the knowledge of immaterial being,” your attempt to pretend that it was actually science is a complete distortion.
Natural Philosophy laid a groundwork for science, but metaphysics was a study of something else, entirely–something that you would deny even existed at the time of your imaginary Ancient Egypt.
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Still no direct quotes from the people you are claiming are wrong-headed “Egyptologists,” of course. More libelous claims against unnamed people. (This is closer to my primary objection to your silliness.)
I refer you to Utterance 1980:
200a: Letting the days go by
200b: Let the water hold me down
201a: Letting the days go by
201b: Water flowing underground
202a: Into the blue again
202b: After the money’s gone
203a: Once in a lifetime
203b: Water flowing underground
And you may ask yourself
What is that beautiful pyramid?
And you may ask yourself
Where does that geyser go?
And you may ask yourself
Am I right?..Am I wrong?
And you may tell yourself
MY HORUS!..WHAT HAVE I DONE?
Bizarro-land ranting, hundreds of posts of challenge and mockery, snark, some really awesome and very kewl new knowledge, all wrapped up in a goddamn song parody.
The SDMB: Same as it ever was.
Letting the ramps go by
Let the water raise the stones
Letting the ramps go by
Water flowing up and down
Because the word is unattested it means either they didn’t use ramps or nothing is known of the culture or both. Heads I win tails Egyptology loses.
It sprayed. This is what geysers do.
Is it your contention that geysers don’t spray or that you can show there were no geysers? They can’t be talked out of existence. They are real and so far as anyone here knows they might have existed.
Both ramps and “wheels” (pulleys) appear in the PT. “Ramp” is used once in the coloquial form in reference to a walkway and “pulley” is used numerous times from the scientific perspective.
The lack of attestation from the pyramiod building age shows ramps were of no importance to the culture or it shows Egyptology doesn’t understand the culture, or both.