How will humanity react to a habitable world close by?

Tomorrow NASA announces that they have determined that there is a planet located within, say, 15 light years.

It appears to have liquid water, an earth-life friendly atmosphere, and albedo indicates the presence of solid land as well as a water cycle. It is, without a doubt, capable of sustaining human life (if we bring our own food. We don’t know if it has life beyond single celled things that pumped out that oxygen…).

What is humanities reaction? Do we do anything to work towards getting there?

Does NASA suddenly see it’s budget skyrocket as we attempt to send probes there?

Does private industry step up, spurred by the super wealthy who want to live in their own private fiefdoms?

Helios 2 holds the record for the fastest manmade object. At 247,510 km/h (68.8 km/s), it’d take that spacecraft 4,360 years to travel 1 light year. There’s not a lot of motive, profit or scientific, to be had for such a long term project.

It’s also not such an easy thing to build a space ark capable of sustaining a large population (including plants and animals) on an centuries long odessey through space. We’d be better off trying to terraform Mars.

Reviving the Orion project would make sense about now. Theoretically that could get us to 10% the speed of light. That could get us there in 150 years.

Looks like you’re not going to have much of a thread unless you wave a magic wand and stipulate we can get there in some reasonable amount of time.

I’m not advocating for Orion, I don’t think it would fly (ha!) as a concept.

If there were a way to pitch this mission as a “we’ll do x, y, z and possibly discover really cool things that will help us on Earth, and oh, at the end when we’ve done our cool stuff, we’ll eventually fly by solar system X, wouldn’t that be cool?” it may be possible to fund such a mission. Otherwise… no, I expect nothing would change. I don’t see a way to do such a mission.

15 light years is a distance so vast that we don’t have a hope of doing anything about it with current technology. Sure, we could invest huge sums in a highly risky project that would take several human lifespans to get there, then hope it was still operating at the end of the trip, and that it could successfully navigate its way to an orbit around the planet, and that it could successfully explore the planet and transmit findings back to us.

But we’ll never do it. Too much risk, too much cost, too little payoff in too long a time.

But there’s a better solution - telescopes. Big mother-freaking telescopes. Huge interferometry arrays in space or on the moon. Theoretically, we could build a telescope array large enough to let us resolve details the size of mountains or even smaller on a planet in another star system. We can certainly build telescopes powerful enough to examine the atmosphere for bio markers. We could build huge radio telescopes fixed on the distant system that could pick up signals equivalent to our radio broadcasts.

That’s what we’d spend the next 50 years doing. We already plan to do stuff like that, starting with next year’s Kepler mission, which is designed to discover exactly the kind of planet you’re talking about.

Five years from now, the Terrestrial Planet Finder programs will be able to catalog the nearest terrestrial planets and measure the composition of chemicals in their atmospheres.

Going out past 2020, there are already tentative plans for the Life Finder, a telescope array that could take very detailed spectroscopic measurements of the atmospheres of nearby planets, measuring things like levels of pollutants, ozone, methane, etc.

Then there’s the Planet Imager, which is currently funded at the ‘study’ level. An interferometry array 6000 km across with a starshield the size of a football field to block the light of the star, the Planet Imager would be able to directly image nearby planets to about 25 X 25 pixels, which for an earth-sized planet would give us a resolution of about 300 miles per pixel - not enough to see artificial structures, but big enough to see continents and oceans and perhaps rainforests and deserts.

That stuff is all do-able today with enough funding. We’ll be doing it, but we probably won’t see something like the Planet Imager for maybe 40-50 years. But if we discovered a nearby planet with oceans, we’d probably accelerate such projects dramatically, and maybe even take on bigger ones.

Theoretically, it’s possible to make interferometry arrays much bigger - even the size of the orbit of the earth, which could theoretically resolve details as small as a foot across on planets around the nearest stars. I’m sure practical limitations would come into play here, as well as limits imposed by quantum effects and the need to collect enough photons from the target (and sort them out from the photons arriving from the background, other transiting planets, the star itself), but I could imagine arrays the size of the earth-moon system, capable of resolving cities and agriculture on planets near us.

And of course, with a telescope like that we could examine thousands of other planets. And if we found another earthlike planet that close, the odds are very high that there would be hundreds of them within reasonable resolving range of such a telescope. So we wouldn’t be putting all our eggs in one basket.

And a telescope like that could be used for many other observations. It could actually resolve Jupiter-sized planets anywhere in our galaxy, and see right back to the earliest moments of the universe’s creation, and in significant detail.

That’s where the bang for the buck will be, and where the best chance is to learn more about such a planet, at least for our lifetimes. We won’t be sending any probes.

Fascinating. Thanks for posting that.

Very interesting post, Sam, thanks. Does your work involve this kind of stuff? Wondering how you’re so up to date on the topic.

And where is he posting from? Look to the skies! :rolleyes:

That’s meant to be looking up, not a rolleyes. FWIW :stuck_out_tongue:

I think that, if we colonize another planet, the universe’s white blood cells will kick in and keep the disease from spreading.

As noted way too expensive and way too long a timeframe to be bothered with at all. It would be duly noted as an interesting place to maybe send a probe someday but that is about it.

IF (note the big “IF”), we learned the earth was to die in 20 years (e.g. Nibiru exists and will collide with us…and do not start with me on that…I know Nibiru is bogus and just using it as an example) then it would be nice to know where else we might go. With today’s technology we could presumably build a generation ship and send it off. Bleeding edge stuff and would require an almost global effort to pull off but in the face if imminent annihilation I think we’d probably try.

I am not familiar with Orion but remember there is time to get up to speed and time to decelerate. I suspect the actual time of travel would be a fair bit more.

True, didn’t think of that. And when you think about it, there’s a good chance that our old ship would just get passed by a newer ship.

There’s a sci-fi short story along this line. Basically, the heroic astronauts are welcomed by a large cheering crowd when they land on the planet they had been sent to explore.

How probable would it be that such a planet wouldn’t already have life on it?

An ORION-type ship couldn’t achieve that velocity, and it wouldn’t be safe for you if it did; when you start calculating the kinetic energy of even a tiny grain of dust at that speed you realize how much ablative shielding would be required to survive even the occasional hit. ORION is well suited for interplanetary jaunts (and is great for lifting heavy loads from a planet’s surface, as long as you don’t mind the fallout and a no contingency plan for flight abort or termination) but not a great vehicle for interstellar transit. The amount of fissionable material required to accelerate to such a speed is also problematic; it would exceed all known terrestrial resources by over an order of magnitude. We’ll need controlled fusion and a propulsive method with an I[sub]sp[/sub]>>10,000s before manned travel between star systems is even remotely plausible.

With that being said, I think we’d find a habitable planet–especially one with an oxygen atmosphere, or a reducing atmosphere with terrestrial tempertures–to be of interest, and a program of examination outlined by Sam Stone is plausible and valuable. (A planet with an atmosphere rich in diatomic oxygen is very, very likely to support complex life.) I think we’d also try to figure out a way to send probes, because there is only so much that can be resolved, even with large telescopic arrays, but this would obviously be a long-term venture that would require substantial advances in propulsion technology that are well beyond what we currently have available.

But migrating to the world, or sending astronauts, or somesuch? Unless someone develops a magical, relativity-defying propulsive system (not impossible, but all currently conceived methods require something like “exotic matter” which is basically fairy dust as far as we know) or some way of negating inertia like Doc Smith’s “Lensmen”, it’s just not going to happen.

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Nobody has the slightest clue about the likehood of life existing outside Earth. So, maybe it’s 99.9999% probable, or maybe it’s 0.000000000000000000000000001% probable.

How do you know that? Most certainly not on the basis of the statistic study of a representative sample. Nor on the basis of our excellent understanding of the processes involved in abiogenesis .

Because oxygen is highly reactive chemical species, and short of some intense source of ionizing radiation or electrolytic activity there just isn’t a good (known) explanation for an atmosphere rich in diatomic oxygen except oxyphotosynthesis (or some other externally powered self-regulating oxygen-cracking process). Oxygen was first produced on earth as a waste product from breaking down water via an oxygen evolving complex, and was toxic in concentration to then anaerobic organisms; only later did organisms evolve that were robust enough to mediate the energetic reactions involving oxygen without being damaged by oxidation themselves. One could say the same thing about chlorine, fluorine, or bromine; finding a world with a significant amount of these substances unbound in the atmosphere would suggest some highly organized life-like (i.e. thermodynamically auto-regulating) processes.

This isn’t to say that oxygen has to be present for life by any means; but if we found it freely in an atmosphere without any other obvious mechanism for production and sustainment it would be a very, very strong indicator that life of some kind exists there.

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